Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Weekend is gonna be a bombsite.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
But you're surely not in a bubble with all the other people in the pub?
Looby
Well-Known Member
The outside thing is a joke. At least let people socialise outside whilst they still can before the weather goes to shit.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
think of it as an Aero
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hiraethified
I've no idea but if it's OK to sit in an office....
Fuck knows.
Looby
Well-Known Member
Exactly. I’m far safer sitting with 15 friends in a park than I am in an office with 12 colleagues who are all visiting multiple families.
Well. I hope that they are going to let more than 6 people in the pub.
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
There will be a lot of house parties this weekend.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Ah, but the economy (and yes, I know pubs contribute to the economy too
).Kinda curious how this will affect us (uni library). Literally the second day of letting (very few) students back into the libraries today; wondering if we might be covered by "schools".
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
There will be a lot of house parties this weekend.
Tbf they've never stopped around here.
Might be just me, but I would love to see some more concrete information about how transmission actually happens. It all seems so terribly coy and coded: "oh indoor family gatherings, oh that charity football match, oh returning from holidays, oh people went into town after being in Greece" - I kind of want to know how does transmission actually happen? Spitting into each other's pints? Having a big singalong arm in arm in an indoor venue? Having a party of 20+ people with zero regard to distancing and ventilation? Or something much more subtle? Surely there must be many people now who have got a fairly good idea who they contracted it from and what kind of contact they were in. Or work transmission - you hear "two people at x supermarket tested positive". Can someone just say what exactly their set-up was on breaks/during work so that we can try and not do the same?
Yeah. Pubs aren’t closing. You can’t go and meet up with the group if there is more than six of you in said group. At least that is how I am interpreting it.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
It's primarily aerosol with a limited amount of contact transmission, contact was thought to be much higher originally hence the anti-bac. It's going be hard to pin down the exact moment for everyone but if your in the same room, in close proximity, your likely to get it, especially if your both maskless but most people don't wear the mask correctly.
Masks are also for protecting others more than yourself so it's no wonder so many "socialism is the real evil" types are so against them.
Weller
So ermm ... You know ermm
I too am confused about the pubs and bubbles etc but perhaps its still just 6 to a group on a table max
I have been keeping myself to myself in our local and leaving if I cannot get a table to keep my distance
Not visiting much lately as its steadily been getting way out of order with angry staff and customers due to the majority totally ignoring the rules , most seem unable to even keep their distance or wash hands in the loos never mind washing hands etc elsewhere and there are plenty of hand wash dispensers
I know its a hard job for the employees but I think it would not be a bad idea now if there were at least some action against the pubs that are letting customers ignore the rules or give the staff and managers more power else I can see them shutting again before xmas anyway at times its utterly impossible to keep 1 meter away due to the number being way way over even what each rooms maximum amount says on the wall
I have been keeping myself to myself in our local and leaving if I cannot get a table to keep my distance
Not visiting much lately as its steadily been getting way out of order with angry staff and customers due to the majority totally ignoring the rules , most seem unable to even keep their distance or wash hands in the loos never mind washing hands etc elsewhere and there are plenty of hand wash dispensers
I know its a hard job for the employees but I think it would not be a bad idea now if there were at least some action against the pubs that are letting customers ignore the rules or give the staff and managers more power else I can see them shutting again before xmas anyway at times its utterly impossible to keep 1 meter away due to the number being way way over even what each rooms maximum amount says on the wall
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
They probably think this is the best time to put announcements out, as its early enough for the papers and wider media to report on it but too late for anyone to include in that reporting any kind of analysis as to what is going on. As an example of this, take a look at the Guardian report which appears to be mostly based on government sources (even though they've usually misled during this pandemic and there are at least two things in there that appear very questionable).
It also tends to lead to the annoucement and its idiocy being discussed for part of the following day, rather than associated and more serious (to them) issues such as the blatant failure of their track and trace regime, or the likelyhood that cops are going to be able to enforce this six-person rule any more than they did the actual lockdown.
Yes, I know all the principles. And I know it's tricky to pin point the exact moment.
There was a news snippet this morning from Australia saying that there might have actually been more fomite/contact transmission in hotel quarantine than previously thought after all - and I was wondering then, how can they know? How can you be sure that transmission was via, say, bathroom tap rather than the air in the bathroom?
But I mean more of a specific situation, like someone saying, okay yes, me and my colleague were chatting by the kettle for 5 mins without distancing or masks - or the opposite, we were behaving like xy and z exactly and still passed it on. Or in the case of this mysterious Durham charity football match "covid-safety measures were not strict enough" - what exactly was the situation? Just to flesh it out and illustrate the specifics a bit if that makes sense?
magneze
🎧
The second one isn't OK either, but THE ECONOMY.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Barmy
It does make some sort of sense though. Trying to allow the economy to function as far as possible, schools, et cetera. Whilst limiting risks. what’s the alternative? And no I’m not excusing the fuck ups with the testing or any of that. But I mean even with A notional best government possible. What could they do? Shut everything and put everyone on furlough again? even if that were economically, idea logically, acceptable. You would still have all the problems of mental health morale et cetera.
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