elbows
Well-Known Member
Uh oh, I've reached the point where I feel the need to complain about my own post because R is not a rate. Probably a sign that its time for another little summer holiday for my mind from this pandemic, lol.
Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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Uh oh, I've reached the point where I feel the need to complain about my own post because R is not a rate. Probably a sign that its time for another little summer holiday for my mind from this pandemic, lol.
clicker
nanook rubs it....
Ffs we're all going to look like Crazy Frog by Christmas.
The Lancet: Most comprehensive study to date provides evidence on optimal physical distancing, face masks, and eye protection to prevent spread of COVID-19
Keeping at least one metre from other people as well as wearing face coverings and eye protection, in and outside of health-care settings, could be the best way to reduce the chance of viral infection or transmission of COVID-19, according to a systematic review and meta-analysis synthesising...www.eurekalert.org
So, the next step on the way to our Mad Max dystopia...
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8ball
Decolonise colons!
<strokes place where old lockdown beard was>
Not a rate in terms of time, I guess. Haven't really thought about how far the term extends...
gosub
~#
Re : Nowcasting and Forecasting of COVID-19 - MRC Biostatistics Unit
Anyone know when the Report for the 20th July 2020 is published (or is that a question for PMQ's)?
Anyone know when the Report for the 20th July 2020 is published (or is that a question for PMQ's)?
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It doesn't really seem to say much new. More like just confirming the current state of evidence (generally poor)
It’s really hard to do a RCT for face covering. So you need to take alternative approaches for the study method, which might not meet the gold standard of an RCT but nevertheless still have statistical merit, plus the advantage of actually being achievable.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
editor
hiraethified
The differences between Wales and England on public transport are huge.
In Wales, most of the seats on trains are covered over with signs telling people they need to maintain social distancing and long benches have signs ensuring people stay 2m apart.
Everything around town seems eminently more sensible and with their pubs not reopening until a week Monday, the question I keep getting asked is, "why the hell did English pubs reopen on a Saturday?"
In Wales, most of the seats on trains are covered over with signs telling people they need to maintain social distancing and long benches have signs ensuring people stay 2m apart.
Everything around town seems eminently more sensible and with their pubs not reopening until a week Monday, the question I keep getting asked is, "why the hell did English pubs reopen on a Saturday?"
Supine
Newt Member
It's not an England Vs Wales thing with the train seats. Different train companies handled it differently.
Northern rail had lots of seat covers but they seem to have been removed recently.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Went alright, though, didn't it? What magic thing happens a week Monday to make pubs safe again?
Yeah and a lot of pubs didn't open anyway. In fact several round my way still aren't as they are run by breweries who are doing a staged reintroduction across their estate. Still, opening on a Saturday was potentially a pretty daft thing to do.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
What?
editor
hiraethified
You don't think it was safer to reopen pubs later rather than earlier, and choosing a traditionally quiet Monday rather then a 'Super Saturday' where people usually go out and get smashed out of their brains?
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
No, it's much easier to pick holes in one bit of your post instead of taking it as a whole and saving the typewriter the agony of a petty alphabet.
hash tag
Books, not bombs
I don't know why I was shielding Now. With hair gently caressing my nipples I could have a good few years yet
www.independent.co.uk
Bald men could be at higher risk of ‘severe’ coronavirus symptoms
Others caution ‘much more evidence’ needed to support claims
www.independent.co.uk
I agree with almost all of this
, including about transport.But (bolded bit) a minority of pubs in Wales have been opening their gardens/yards/exteriors since Monday 3rd July (they had the sense not to open them on a bloody Saturday anyway, so no argument there).
My confidence about this is about us cycling up to a country pub outside Swansea with quality ale in it
.A bit busy though it was, there was no bother there
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
The (exterior) table-spacing was also pretty good where we were today
It was a really nice day out tbh, I've been pretty pessimistic but makes me feel better about the reopening of pubs, that particular pub anyway
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I was surprised when I returned to work 4 weeks ago to find hardly anyone wearing masks, but initially it was just us handful of IT staff working individually or in very small groups setting up offices for social distancing.
As more and more staff return to work, things are changing and I for one, will be wearing a mask when in other areas of the site and especially in shared facilities (I have never shopped unmasked).
Encountering two masked clients (scientists) enabled me to broach the subject ...
One colleague has decided he's somewhat at risk as numbers of people pick up and is resisting being at work much.....only 50, massively strong - black belt in Aikido, but heavy and type 2 diabetic...
As more and more staff return to work, things are changing and I for one, will be wearing a mask when in other areas of the site and especially in shared facilities (I have never shopped unmasked).
Encountering two masked clients (scientists) enabled me to broach the subject ...
One colleague has decided he's somewhat at risk as numbers of people pick up and is resisting being at work much.....only 50, massively strong - black belt in Aikido, but heavy and type 2 diabetic...
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Cloo
Banana for scale
We went to our local (which we avoided for years as it seemed pretty rough but actually it's quite nice when it's quiet) for a quick lunch half pint yesterday - took about 10 mins to set up the app for ordering and tracing, but then it worked pretty well. We'll probably go for lunch next week when both kids will be out of the house during the day at summer camps * faints * - it's got quite a nice garden and it is is well spaced out, and they've got a military grade cleaning regime going on. Local pubs all seem very quiet. We had lunch outdoors at a country pub on Sunday and that was pretty quiet but I think only because the morning had been on the rainy side and it had only just stopped (was good news for us as it didn't take bookings and we were counting on having lunch there midway through a walk).
I find it odd people talking about 'if there is a second wave' because, to my mind, of course there will be a second wave, it's basically unavoidable unless we stay on total lockdown until immunity/vaccine, but then I also think it is the right thing to do to partially open up in summer when it's easier to do things outdoors, open shop/restaurant frontages etc, as it might give businesses a fighting chance of survival. For all the hurrumphing about 'Oh, they just want people to die so that we can line the pockets of Big Business', the vast majority of businesses are small and need a chance to make a living. I don't think we'll get a true second wave this summer, though there will be spikes in areas - my understanding is the government is expecting it around October, though I'd have thought later in winter might be more likely.
I find it odd people talking about 'if there is a second wave' because, to my mind, of course there will be a second wave, it's basically unavoidable unless we stay on total lockdown until immunity/vaccine, but then I also think it is the right thing to do to partially open up in summer when it's easier to do things outdoors, open shop/restaurant frontages etc, as it might give businesses a fighting chance of survival. For all the hurrumphing about 'Oh, they just want people to die so that we can line the pockets of Big Business', the vast majority of businesses are small and need a chance to make a living. I don't think we'll get a true second wave this summer, though there will be spikes in areas - my understanding is the government is expecting it around October, though I'd have thought later in winter might be more likely.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I don't know why I was shielding Now. With hair gently caressing my nipples I could have a good few years yet
Bald men could be at higher risk of ‘severe’ coronavirus symptoms
Others caution ‘much more evidence’ needed to support claims
Fucking hell that newspaper is such a pile of shit.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Not even a newspaper any more.
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
I think there is a bit of herd immunity potential in this too as the young and healthy get a chance to mingle, catch it and recover whilst the older and more vulnerable are mostly still staying at home.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Plans for several hundred walk-in test centres and 500,000 per day test capacity by the end of October:
The thing about winter preparations in regards testing is that at some point in the autumn/early winter we lose the ability to assume a huge chunk of those experiencing symptoms have SARS-CoV-2 as opposed to other seasonal respiratory infections. So you need much more capacity, and they will also need to think about whether they are going to do lots of testing for the other viruses too.
Coronavirus: Walk-in centres 'to help cope with winter'
Officials are worried people are still not coming forward for testing when they are infected.
www.bbc.co.uk
The thing about winter preparations in regards testing is that at some point in the autumn/early winter we lose the ability to assume a huge chunk of those experiencing symptoms have SARS-CoV-2 as opposed to other seasonal respiratory infections. So you need much more capacity, and they will also need to think about whether they are going to do lots of testing for the other viruses too.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Which is bad news for multi-generational households.
Plans for several hundred walk-in test centres and 500,000 per day test capacity by the end of October:
Coronavirus: Walk-in centres 'to help cope with winter'
Officials are worried people are still not coming forward for testing when they are infected.www.bbc.co.uk
The thing about winter preparations in regards testing is that at some point in the autumn/early winter we lose the ability to assume a huge chunk of those experiencing symptoms have SARS-CoV-2 as opposed to other seasonal respiratory infections. So you need much more capacity, and they will also need to think about whether they are going to do lots of testing for the other viruses too.
Testing is still being rationed by the limited number of symptoms listed. The NHS site says you can get tested ”if you have coronavirus symptoms now (a high temperature, a new, continuous cough, or a loss or change to your sense of smell or taste)”. This rules out those - the majority - who don’t have these symptoms or don’t have any symptoms at all but feel they may have a reason to get tested. In reality you can go ahead and book a test anyway but the site discourages you from doing this. My local walk-in centre remains very quiet, probably partly for this reason. If they want more people to get tested the messaging will have to change. It would make sense to me to say that if you feel like you’ve got a cold coming on then get tested.
I hope there are some plans for a better test as well. The current one seems unreliable to say the least.
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