Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[treelover]

they are meant to be takeaways, but most people are sitting on walls, pavements, like mini festivals, tbh.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

they are meant to be takeaways, but most people are sitting on walls, pavements, like mini festivals, tbh.

People have been doing that in London for weeks now. On hot days, it gets pretty busy. This is a bit like the panic about parks imo - people standing/sitting near (but not on top of) one another outside is making little or no difference in the grand scheme of things.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

A couple of pubs in Maidenhead are doing takeaway booze. One is right on a busy road and there isn't anywhere to sit outside, or at least that bit isn't open yet, the other is at the top of the High Street and normally has tables outside but they have stern notices in the window saying you can't drink within sight of the premises.

 

[Looby]

I drove past a park near me last week and it was full of people drinking with friends and there were 3 bars around it doing takeaways.
Went down tonight with my bezzer and we were having a lovely evening, went to order more drinks and a takeaway pizza and they’d been told by police to stop serving drinks. Someone had complained about people pissing everywhere because they haven’t opened the toilets.
Honestly if the park toilets had been open, I don’t think there’d have been an issue.

We came back here to drink in the garden but it’s not the same. That tiny bit of normality was so nice.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Where to have a piss has been one of lockdown's major practical conundrums!

 

[teqniq]

 

[eatmorecheese]

EXCLUSIVE: UK health ministry has no records on Turkish PPE fiasco and won't say if files destroyed

Well, this article suggests that the scum are trying to hide their tracks ahead of the inevitable enquiry. Not even shocked if true.

 

[CNT36]

Where to have a piss has been one of lockdown's major practical conundrums!

Down here the people voted with their genitals and now the bogs are open.

 

[20Bees]

Wrong thread, sorry

 

[20Bees]

I believe the Anglesey plant has - or at least, it has had - a significant number of Eastern European workers, but perhaps you have more recent local knowledge. I stand corrected.

 

[Doodler]

Just been reading this on the BBC.

Coronavirus: Almost 100 staff at food factories test positive

The staff work at two different companies which supply food to hospitals, shops and restaurants.

www.bbc.co.uk

What is it about meat processing plants and Covid-19?

 

[Sue]

I believe the Anglesey plant has - or at least, it has had - a significant number of Eastern European workers, but perhaps you have more recent local knowledge. I stand corrected.

And? What has that got to do with the price of cheese?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What is it about meat processing plants and Covid-19?

Whatever it is, hopefully places are instituting regular testing regimes for staff. A covid bonus for everyone in a high risk environment would be nice. More chance of the pigs getting up and flying.

The smart way of responding now is to focus resources sharply in on this kind of emergent ongoing risk area.

 

[platinumsage]

What is it about meat processing plants and Covid-19?

Cold and moist.

 

[Doodler]

Cold and moist.

<Donald Pleasence voice>.

 

[Bwark]

Plus people being made to stand almost elbow to elbow in the plants whilst working

 

[LDC]

And? What has that got to do with the price of cheese?

Plenty of possibilities; more vulnerable to exploitation and poorer conditions at work, less likely to be union members and able to organise, less financially comfortable, accommodation more likely to be shared houses, etc.

 

[editor]

Now this I didn't know

Coronavirus: PM to announce on Tuesday if pubs can reopen

Boris Johnson is also expected to announce a relaxation of the 2m distancing rule in England.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[littlebabyjesus]

BBC reporting continues to be absolutely dismal.

on the updates,

The number of daily coronavirus deaths in the UK has dropped to its lowest level since mid-March, according to the latest government figures.

No, it hasn't.

three months and more in and they still haven't worked out the weekend reporting pattern yet?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Now this I didn't know

Coronavirus: PM to announce on Tuesday if pubs can reopen

Boris Johnson is also expected to announce a relaxation of the 2m distancing rule in England.

www.bbc.co.uk

SK's the odd one there. US is six feet, but SK's 1.4 seems very specific and isn't a foot thing. Do they have their own local units?

It's not 4 chi, which is 1.33 m.

 

[two sheds]

square root of 2 (ish)

 

[littlebabyjesus]

square root of 2 (ish)

I'd fucking love it if that were the real answer.

 

[two sheds]

although as I say the surface of a cone (which is what you'd think would be important for sneezing and the like) is proportional to the cube of the radius.

eta: as lbj remarks no it isn't - it's the square

 

[William of Walworth]

although as I say the surface of a cone (which is what you'd think would be important for sneezing and the like) is proportional to the cube of the radius.

I'm expecting your next post to be in English

</maths failure >

 

[two sheds]

the droplets from a sneeze will be spread out the further you are from the sneezer. If say you get 4 million droplets hit your nose and mouth 1 metre away then you'd only get 1 million droplets if you were 2 metres away .

eta edited because of my own maths failure

 

[littlebabyjesus]

although as I say the surface of a cone (which is what you'd think would be important for sneezing and the like) is proportional to the cube of the radius.

The area of the circle at the end of the cone increases proportional to the square of the height (distance between sneezer and sneezee). Think that's probably the relevant bit. So the amount of droplets in any given area at the end of the cone will decrease at a square of the distance? At 2 metres away, you'll get a quarter of the droplets you'd get at 1 metre away.

That's why rooms with high ceilings need proportionately bigger windows.

Still doesn't quite explain root 2 social distancing, sadly.

 

[two sheds]

The area of the circle at the end of the cone increases proportional to the square of the height (distance between sneezer and sneezee). Think that's probably the relevant bit. So the amount of droplets in any given area at the end of the cone will decrease at a square of the distance? At 2 metres away, you'll get a quarter of the droplets you'd get at 1 metre away.

That's why rooms with high ceilings need proportionately bigger windows.

Still doesn't quite explain root 2 social distancing, sadly.

oops yes it's the area of the base so indeed squared I was thinking as as I was writing it that I was perhaps being over confident.

would make sense if they started off at 2m to take it down to 1.4m though.

 

[two sheds]

,

 

[littlebabyjesus]

oops yes it's the area of the base so indeed squared I was thinking as as I was writing it that I was perhaps being over confident.

would make sense if they started off at 2m to take it down to 1.4m though.

Yes, it would. We're going to double the amount of droplets you might get.

 

[two sheds]

The WHO advice that halving the 2-metre rule will double the risk looks highly dubious to me. The virus count picked up within the cone of transmission - sort of thing - is hardly just going to double, surely it's going to be eight times (area is proportional to radius squared, volume proportional to radius cubed) as high.

Or not?

just to point out this earlier post was bollocks too - should have been squared rather than cubed.