Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[littlebabyjesus]

Is there a link for the different council areas??
My comment (post 13,557 above) that the figures aren't good for Wales was more based on an overall comparison with Scotland, in the context of their respective populations, but I do take your point as well.

What do you want to know, though? How Wales has done since March or how it is doing now?

tbh you need to go pretty local really to get a proper sense of what's going on. Various areas have been hit badly at different times. Eg in Wales, Gwent or whatever it's called now, I still call it Gwent, was hit hard and early, but is now doing much better.

 

[William of Walworth]

What do you want to know, though? How Wales has done since March or how it is doing now?

Both, probably.
I've not been good at sourcing details for these things though -- I've tended on rely on others throughout this thread

tbh you need to go pretty local really to get a proper sense of what's going on. Various areas have been hit badly at different times.

I did ask for a local areas link from planetgeli when he cited Rhondda Cynon Taff and Merthyr as the worst-hit Welsh areas. Not because I doubted him, I just wanted to see .....

 

[William of Walworth]

My earlier post (#13,557, previous page) was about the respective figures between Wales and Scotland, given their respective populations, but chances are I've been going all wrong with that too

 

[little_legs]

 

[planetgeli]

Both, probably.
I've not been good at sourcing details for these things though -- I've tended on rely on others throughout this thread


I did ask for a local areas link from planetgeli when he cited Rhondda Cynon Taff and Merthyr as the worst-hit Welsh areas. Not because I doubted him, I just wanted to see .....

Sorry, went shopping William of Walworth

Figuring out the stats on coronavirus in Wales

Where are the hot spots in Wales and what is happening in care homes?

www.bbc.co.uk

Coronavirus deaths in Wales
Numbers up to 22 May by local area

Area	Number of deaths	Deaths per 100,000	Increased number on last week
Cardiff	341	93.62	12
Rhondda Cynon Taff	251	104.5	14
Swansea	190	77.09	9
Newport	152	99.15	3
Caerphilly	125	69.05	2
Flintshire	102	65.55	11
Neath Port Talbot	92	64.38	2
Bridgend	86	59.36	5
Powys	85	64.18	1
Vale of Glamorgan	83	62.8	2
Carmarthenshire	73	38.92	8
Denbighshire	68	71.33	10
Monmouthshire	63	66.92	5
Torfaen	63	67.7	1
Merthyr Tydfil	61	101.36	2
Blaenau Gwent	60	86.07	0
Conwy	58	49.49	9
Gwynedd	53	42.68	6
Wrexham	50	36.73	4
Pembrokeshire	38	30.38	1
Anglesey	21	30.01	5
Ceredigion	7	9.6	1

Source: ONS, 2 June 2020
Cardiff has the largest number of deaths in Wales so far - 341, followed by Rhondda Cynon Taff with 251 up to 22 May.

 

[Brainaddict]

That shows what's happened from the start, though, not how places are doing now.

Ah, you're right, it was surrounded by data about new cases so I misread it.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Sorry, went shopping William of Walworth

Figuring out the stats on coronavirus in Wales

Where are the hot spots in Wales and what is happening in care homes?

www.bbc.co.uk

Coronavirus deaths in Wales
Numbers up to 22 May by local area

Area	Number of deaths	Deaths per 100,000	Increased number on last week
Cardiff	341	93.62	12
Rhondda Cynon Taff	251	104.5	14
Swansea	190	77.09	9
Newport	152	99.15	3
Caerphilly	125	69.05	2
Flintshire	102	65.55	11
Neath Port Talbot	92	64.38	2
Bridgend	86	59.36	5
Powys	85	64.18	1
Vale of Glamorgan	83	62.8	2
Carmarthenshire	73	38.92	8
Denbighshire	68	71.33	10
Monmouthshire	63	66.92	5
Torfaen	63	67.7	1
Merthyr Tydfil	61	101.36	2
Blaenau Gwent	60	86.07	0
Conwy	58	49.49	9
Gwynedd	53	42.68	6
Wrexham	50	36.73	4
Pembrokeshire	38	30.38	1
Anglesey	21	30.01	5
Ceredigion	7	9.6	1

Source: ONS, 2 June 2020
Cardiff has the largest number of deaths in Wales so far - 341, followed by Rhondda Cynon Taff with 251 up to 22 May.

So very badly hit, but also now doing much better. The former county of Gwent - Newport, Blaenau, Monmouthshire - was hit early and now coming out early as well, bit like is happening in London.

That's why I think it's important to know what you're asking exactly in these things - figures for the overall scale of the catastrophe aren't a good guide to how things are now.

 

[Supine]

Cardiff has the largest number of deaths in Wales so far - 341, followed by Rhondda Cynon Taff with 251 up to 22 May.

A lot of people from South Wales end up at hospital in Cardiff

 

[treelover]

Families reveal 'real struggle' to afford food during lockdown #HelptheHungry

Help the Hungry: Parents face terrible choice between putting food on the table and paying bills, as campaign gets emergency supplies out to people in dire financial need

www.independent.co.uk

While lots of help from mutual aid groups, etc, doesn't seem to be many wider challenges to the poverty issues during c19.

one of the issues i have noticed is the lack of cheaper own brand products in s/markets, esp tesco, not sure that should be.

 

[little_legs]

 

[weltweit]

I have 1 surgical mask which I have only worn for 1/2 an hour, but it won't last forever and isn't cleanable. I would prefer a couple of cloth masks which I could wash.

Anyone know where to get them?

 

[planetgeli]

Anyone know where to get them?

I need to know too. Just looked up some online and they were crap.

I have to come to London in 2 weeks for an MRI at UCHL. I'm coming on the train then bus from Paddington to Euston Rd so I'm going to need one/some. This will be the first time I've been more than 8 miles from my house since mid-March. And even that has only been 3 or 4 shopping trips to Tesco.

 

[Orang Utan]

there's loads to choose from on Amazon

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I have 1 surgical mask which I have only worn for 1/2 an hour, but it won't last forever and isn't cleanable. I would prefer a couple of cloth masks which I could wash.

Anyone know where to get them?

Just letting it dry out is supposed to be what you can do. Don't wash it apparently. But get some more. (I put in an order on Amazon for a pack of 50 just now.)

 

[Pingety Pong]

I bought a few washable ones from Etsy the other day for a fiver. They also have one some with little windows for your mouth

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[nagapie]

there's loads to choose from on Amazon

That's the problem, too much choice. I need to get the bus, on the 15th.

 

[Orang Utan]

That's the problem, too much choice. I need to get the bus, on the 15th.

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[Callie]

I bought a few washable ones from Etsy the other day for a fiver. They also have one some with little windows for your mouth

This item is unavailable - Etsy

Find the perfect handmade gift, vintage & on-trend clothes, unique jewellery, and more… lots more.

www.etsy.com

Erm... Oh I see a window not a hole to assist with lip reading?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

That's the problem, too much choice. I need to get the bus, on the 15th.

It doesn't actually matter what you get in terms of the bylaws as long as it covers your face.

 

[tonysingh]

I'm dreading Monday.

This thing with the buses makes me anxious. I'm disabled but it ain't visible. I rely on public transport but wearing a mask is a huge ordeal, it freaks me out. So I'm gonna have to explain to bus drivers the nature of my disabilities, even though I have a bus pass. Then there'll be the self appointed busybodies on the bus demanding to know why I ain't wearing one..... Looks like I'm gonna have to stay indoors now.

 

[Orang Utan]

I'm dreading Monday.

This thing with the buses makes me anxious. I'm disabled but it ain't visible. I rely on public transport but wearing a mask is a huge ordeal, it freaks me out. So I'm gonna have to explain to bus drivers the nature of my disabilities, even though I have a bus pass. Then there'll be the self appointed busybodies on the bus demanding to know why I ain't wearing one..... Looks like I'm gonna have to stay indoors now.

It’s not next Monday, but the one after that. So get out and about while you can

 

[quimcunx]

Would you be able to wear one of those clear visors?

 

[Supine]

I can thoroughly recommends this week's Dispatches. The look on Valence and Whitteys faces when they announce they are abandoning the contain faze. They looked very very uncomfortable. Eye opening interviews with members of SAGE too.

 

[tommers]

I am very much up for what people will be defining as a face covering in a couple of week's time.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I am very much up for what people will be defining as a face covering in a couple of week's time.

Aye this is going to be interesting.

 

[Dogsauce]

How the fuck do you get small kids to wear them? Both mine (2 & 4) would likely go mental if you put a mask over their mouths.

 

[magneze]

If the masks gave them superpowers?

 

[8115]

How the fuck do you get small kids to wear them? Both mine (2 & 4) would likely go mental if you put a mask over their mouths.

Young children don't have to wear them.

 

[Orang Utan]

Young children don't have to wear them.

Yeah they do. Under 2s are exempt as well as unsupervised primary school children

 

[William of Walworth]

I've (belatedly) just checked the BBC story about the compulsory masks on public transport thing ..... (from Monday June 15th).

... looks for now that this will be just England?
Nothing mentioned for (e.g.) Wales yet, as far as I can see ....