Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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Supine
Newt Member
Some people in the lakes drove miles to get here and their excuse was 'we're here to feed the ducks'. The police told them to fuck off down south (politely).
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
cupid_stunt - fwiw, I think it's more difficult than ever not to go a bit fucking potty and that it's really easy to shoot that in the direction of what looks like obvious targets.
From my own pov that's not helped by the way this is all being so badly mismanaged by a bunch of incompetent, entitled arseholes, who are guided in everything they do by profit over lives,
It's difficult not to get so caught up in the frustration and powerlessness and worry of it all, that you find easier enemies, iykwim. I do get that.
From my own pov that's not helped by the way this is all being so badly mismanaged by a bunch of incompetent, entitled arseholes, who are guided in everything they do by profit over lives,
It's difficult not to get so caught up in the frustration and powerlessness and worry of it all, that you find easier enemies, iykwim. I do get that.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
I've not even read about that - fuck sake
Dozens detained at Brussels riot after teen's death during police chase
Forty-three people have been detained by police in Brussels after a riot broke out in the Belgium capital, which has been in lockdown for four weeks.
newseu.cgtn.com
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
Dozens detained at Brussels riot after teen's death during police chase
Forty-three people have been detained by police in Brussels after a riot broke out in the Belgium capital, which has been in lockdown for four weeks.
Awful.
There has definitely been a huge risk, throughout this, as to how some police will behave - with less to do and less people around to witness it - and how much easier it is to minimise it later, on vague lockdown/covid grounds. How that could escalate in built up areas where it's already more stressful and difficult to be sat in, confined to your home with no outdoor space, as well as going out and doing shopping and exercising when SD is obvs more difficult.
It's frightening, that extra potential for abuse of power.
I did read this today, too -
Calls for ‘urgent’ review after police Taser man in front of child
Mayor questions whether action was justified or proportionate
www.independent.co.uk
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Lockdown on the Sussex coast became an issue yesterday, mainly from outsiders, many from London, deciding to come down to the likes of Brighton & Worthing.
This was Worthing beach yesterday, nowhere near as busy as a normal sunny day, but certainly the worst since the start of lockdown, and at Easter...
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So, today the police have set-up road checks, the one below is on the A27 into Brighton, apparently there's also one on the A24 into Worthing...
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Anyone from 'the north' are being issued fines, and being turned around.
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We are a low risk/case area, despite being a urban area, unlike to the north of the national park, so we don't want visitors from 'the north' coming here and spreading the plague, thanks very much.
You do know this whole outbreak started in Brighton and, had we nuked the place as I've been advocating for years anyway, it would all be gravy and roses right now.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Like you my plans for Easter and the Bank Holiday turned to shit and like you I've not been much more than a mile or so from home since March the 26th, although unlike you my mile's distance doesn't include either the South Coast or a National park. However, I do have the joys of the rather rather dull local park - six trees, no pond but lots of grass to not pick-nick on; I've crossed the North Circular on Pilgrimage to Barking Curfew Tower (0.9 miles from home); ans tomorrow afternoon I might pack up the Kendal Mint Cake and make an assault on the summit of Beckton Alp.
Unlike you I do no like living in a country where not only can the police stop you from travelling beyond an arbitrarily drawn line but they can also rob you for having the audacity to approach that line. Nor do I get any solace from knowing that in Belgium they steal even more and then beat the shit out of you.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Awful.
There has definitely been a huge risk, throughout this, as to how some police will behave - with less to do and less people around to witness it - and how much easier it is to minimise it later, on vague lockdown/covid grounds. How that could escalate in built up areas where it's already more stressful and difficult to be sat in, confined to your home with no outdoor space, as well as going out and doing shopping and exercising when SD is obvs more difficult.
It's frightening, that extra potential for abuse of power.
I did read this today, too -
Calls for ‘urgent’ review after police Taser man in front of child
Mayor questions whether action was justified or proportionate
Sod calling for a review, arrest the filths for assault and the attemted suicide bombing of a petrol station.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Which, IMO is fine. But there also seems to be quite a bit of the filth making things up as they go along and penalising people for doing nothing unlawful. E.g. Fining people for crossing a demarcation line that wasn't there yesterday.
But...but...but...I am now a totally selfish cunt who wilfully drove 60 miles to our second home. From my city hometown to rural bucolic bliss.. It's fucking dreadful, isn't it? I have, to be fair, forgiven myself since the 'second home' is actually a horsebox and we were more at risk than the walkers, dog-owners, birdwatchers locals who share our woods. So yeah, I suppose we stepped into their 'space' whatever that might mean, driving from Cambridge to near Norwich...and they certainly stepped into mine...but what the fuck does this mean. We stayed in our truck until we were in our wood, went nowhere else, chatted to a local dog-trainer, our neighbouring farmer and his cowman...at a respectable distance of several metres. We are fortunate to have a little pocket wood and re-opened a particularly lovely circular route between the river and village, previously closed to locals by private landowners. And made the gate combination known, to the vast annoyance of other landowners with whom we share a right of way.
And I had not seen my daughter and grand-daughter for 3 months
Plus, there are worse cunts on the street where I live than some visiting random.
So you know...I have a (nominal) respect for the rule of law...by consent... have both vulnerable family members and a sense of civic responsibility and understand how risk assessment works...while seeing, at first hand, the utter fucking hypocrisy of non-distancing police. And after weeks of going nowhere further than half a mile from my home (social housing in case you thought I was some rentier wanker). And no, I do not want to see the country breaking apart into even more divisions than the ones which already have and I certainly don't feel comfortable with the virulent blaming of outsiders.
And I had not seen my daughter and grand-daughter for 3 months
Plus, there are worse cunts on the street where I live than some visiting random.
So you know...I have a (nominal) respect for the rule of law...by consent... have both vulnerable family members and a sense of civic responsibility and understand how risk assessment works...while seeing, at first hand, the utter fucking hypocrisy of non-distancing police. And after weeks of going nowhere further than half a mile from my home (social housing in case you thought I was some rentier wanker). And no, I do not want to see the country breaking apart into even more divisions than the ones which already have and I certainly don't feel comfortable with the virulent blaming of outsiders.
Yu_Gi_Oh
天天好心情
Yes, I did. From the moment I landed in Beijing I was in something they call "closed loop isolation" and the airport had been sectioned-off so that all international arrivals were quarantined from domestic arrivals. They had a processing center at an Expo center near the airport that we were all taken to on coaches and then divided up according to our final destination.
Once I arrived in my home city, I was taken to an initial quarantine hotel with incredibly high-level infection control and given a coronavirus test. After a few days, once I'd passed that test, I was taken to a nicer hotel, and had to pass two more coronavirus tests before the time was up. I had to report my temperature twice a day, and yep, they left breakfast, lunch, and dinner outside my door.
Seven days after I got let out, I had to go an do another coronavirus test.
I believe that in many places now, you have to do the 14 days in a quarantine hotel, and then an additional 14 at home. The whole thing is serious. Back in Feb and early March, the UK govt was talking the talk with their requisitioned hotels near airports, and their contact testing reports, but it was all bullshit. They lied to us. They lied to us and I don't know if we'll ever be able to hold them to account.
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
This outbreak didn't start in Brighton, it's just that guy was the first 'super-spreader', there was full contact tracing, and that little outbreak was stopped in its tracks.
Supine
Newt Member
Was it a sea gull?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Yup and the early payment discount is pretty clearly a bribe not to go to court, where a high proportion of these fines are likely to be thrown out.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
When he was going about washing hands thoroughly we should have known he meant "of all culpability"
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Stay alert though. Mrs SI has just said to wait for Johnson to explain it but I'd be very surprised if he can, given it's (deliberately?) vague. Stay alert FFS. It's not a man with a stripy top, mask and swag bag creeping up your drive
bimble
floofy
What are they actually thinking with this new totally pointless empty slogan replacing the stay at home message, what is the idea behind that? I just don’t get it.
Boyfriend said yesterday he reckons that delaying quarantine for arrivals into the country until now was a plan to allow them to then point at the downward curve and say look it was foreigners that done it. I don’t know I’m not quite that cynical but couldn’t think of a better explanation for that either .
Boyfriend said yesterday he reckons that delaying quarantine for arrivals into the country until now was a plan to allow them to then point at the downward curve and say look it was foreigners that done it. I don’t know I’m not quite that cynical but couldn’t think of a better explanation for that either .
Not going down well in Scotland:
'Sturgeon said: “The Sunday papers is the first I’ve seen of the PM’s new slogan. It is of course for him to decide what’s most appropriate for England, but given the critical point we are at in tackling the virus, #StayHomeSaveLives remains my clear message to Scotland at this stage.”
Ian Blackford, the SNP leader in Westminster, said: “What kind of buffoon thinks of this kind of nonsense? It is an invisible threat. Staying alert is not the answer.”
www.theguardian.com
'Sturgeon said: “The Sunday papers is the first I’ve seen of the PM’s new slogan. It is of course for him to decide what’s most appropriate for England, but given the critical point we are at in tackling the virus, #StayHomeSaveLives remains my clear message to Scotland at this stage.”
Ian Blackford, the SNP leader in Westminster, said: “What kind of buffoon thinks of this kind of nonsense? It is an invisible threat. Staying alert is not the answer.”
Nicola Sturgeon leads chorus of disapproval over Johnson's 'stay alert' message
First minister hits out at No 10’s latest coronavirus messaging as ‘vague and imprecise’
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
They really don't need an explanation for 'foreigners'. Plenty of anti-Chinese sentiment from day one of this.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Maybe 'stay alert' is a not so cryptic reference to 'keep shopping your neighbours'.
200,000 phone calls to the police and rising.
200,000 phone calls to the police and rising.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
The airlines are a powerful lobby. Look how they've reacted to this, fucked weeks ago or not.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
And what tiny fraction of those will have been acted on?
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
An incredibly tiny amount I hope. I'm not really into police informant culture.
bimble
floofy
But 9/10 flights were already not flying this whole lockdown time, people just aren’t coming here anyway so not sure that’s the reason. Though that’s what all the news seems to be about, the Airline industry and not why it’s only happening now , 2 months late.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Luckily, neither are the police. Although that may simply be an artefact of their general aversion to doing anything resembling work.
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