Raheem
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Apparently, there's nothing the police can do.
Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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hiraethified
The twats keeping coming
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Coronavirus: Police hunt man who pretended to thank care worker and then licked her face
The suspect hugged the victim, 23, in Derbyshire, before assaulting her.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
tbh that sounds like something beyond being a twat, and more towards some very strange and disturbing thoughts rattling around in his head. He may need help more than anything.The twats keeping coming
Coronavirus: Police hunt man who pretended to thank care worker and then licked her face
The suspect hugged the victim, 23, in Derbyshire, before assaulting her.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
They have reduced us to mere existence. Eat, sleep, work, eat, sleep, work and nothing more. That's how my life feels right now.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Well yes but more than that he needs keeping out of the way of the rest of us.
Feel exactly the same. And doesn't feel any different at weekends either.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Indeed. Possibly not coincidentally, psychiatric patients across the country have been discharged from hospital earlier than they would have been to make way for c19 patients.
Part-timah
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Remember this Government have talked a good game but haven’t delivered. Don’t get yer hopes up.
ska invita
back on the other side
The first Westminster outbreak was in June 2017. Containment failedAs a vague aside, when did 'presser' come to mean 'press conference'? It feels like a very recent and (to my mind anyway) rubbish innovation. (See also 'staffer' which seems to mean 'member of staff' or 'employee'.)
elbows
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Unlike some days, I quite liked the questions asked in the press conference today. Sadly most of the answers were slippery and uninteresting, but since we have gotten at least some proper clues about their test, track, trace plans going forwards (ie we know they are actually going to bother with that stuff) I suppose I can live with that for today.
Peston asked Vallance about the 20,000 deaths figure he used to wheel out. No replacement number was forthcoming.
Peston asked Vallance about the 20,000 deaths figure he used to wheel out. No replacement number was forthcoming.
yeah, they haven't actually recruited the 18,000 contact tracers yet treelover - consider it the next 100,000 tests a day until they actually wheel them out.
Ah yes. Any mention of how that's going? Last I saw, they were up to about 20,000 and there's only a week to go...
well, they keep saying they have capacity for 40,000 a day, but not enough people are going to get tested so they're only doing 20,000 - presumably the testing criteria is currently too tight. So they announced testing for teachers and families, which will definitely boost the numbers I'd imagine.
So even at capacity, 60, 000 short.
elbows
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Yeah (answer to previous point, not the 60,000 short one), and some of todays slides have testing info on them, including this one about testing capacity. I note it doesnt break the capacity down by pillar, so there are some extra limits to what I could say about the claims or the likely reality.
Callie
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As mentioned early only if those people can actually access the testing.
They're going to have to consider self testing at home because I suspect the throughput of a drive through centre is too low to increase numbers significantly. Then PHE have the issue of how to get swabs from suspected covid patients from people's homes to the testing facilities whilst complying with their biological specimen transportations regulations.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Hard to know, of course, but I wouldn't 'medicalise' it without knowing more. Weird misogynists do vile things like this routinely i.e. assault women.
Callie
Pivoting
Testing facilities might have the capacity and the ability to expand on that but that's no use if we can't actually take that amount of swabs per day (and then get them to the testing facility to go onto the test run/batch).
I think most of the testing facilities are run in batches because the test and machinery doesn't allow 'random access' (sample turns up, stuck it on the analyser....if the analyser is running you have to wait for the run to finish to get the next run on) therefore there are limited windows if opportunity to get the sample on the test run and unless you've got couriers going back and forth constantly transport if samples to testing facility will be batches too.
I think most of the testing facilities are run in batches because the test and machinery doesn't allow 'random access' (sample turns up, stuck it on the analyser....if the analyser is running you have to wait for the run to finish to get the next run on) therefore there are limited windows if opportunity to get the sample on the test run and unless you've got couriers going back and forth constantly transport if samples to testing facility will be batches too.
oh sure, capacity by itself is pretty meaningless.
Azrael
circling Airstrip One
Far from claiming it "only" referred to vaccination programmes, I was the one who raised and noted its older use! The epidemiologists and public health officials expressing outrage at the time were similarly taken aback.Who says there's been a change in usage? Natural immunity is one form of herd immunity. Checking in a current medical dictionary, there's no mention of herd immunity only referring to vaccine-related immunity.
Definition of HERD IMMUNITY
a reduction in the risk of infection with a specific communicable disease (such as measles or influenza) that occurs when a significant proportion of the population has become immune to infection (as because of previous exposure or vaccination) so that susceptible… See the full definitionwww.merriam-webster.com
So yes, "herd immunity" can be used to refer to the effects of "natural immunity" on the patterns of epidemics. I've been saying for weeks that they must mean natural immunity. That usage is different in kind from its usage as regards vaccinations, and employing an already obscure technical term in an even more obscure fashion remains atrocious public information.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Slightly more activity at my end of the street this week...
I don't think herd immunity is a particularly obscure concept - it's been a key part of the very widespread and high profile pro/anti-vax debates of the past decade or so.
Azrael
circling Airstrip One
Absolutely, as I said, anyone who's argued with anti-vaxers will be familiar with it. Not everyone has. From their comments at the time, it was clear that several journalists had never heard of it; and those laissez faire fundies who continue to tout it still haven't grasped its basics.
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