Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[SheilaNaGig]

All the stats have become a fog to me.
However I am curious about the stats regarding those hospitalised with the virus, get treated and then get through it and are discharged.
Also any stats for those at home identified with the virus who recover, verses those identified who die in situ (like in care homes).
On a personal level it would influence any future decision as to whether to go to hospital.
The Excel facility frankly makes me shudder.

Could you clarify your concern?
I’m not sure what your question is.

What specifically worries you about the Excell Nightingale facility?

 

[Petcha]

Even I know the figure was way above 19 by this morning. I think it was in the 30s a couple of days ago.

And she's the Care Minister. Where do the tories find these people.

 

[DotCommunist]

Even I know the figure was way above 19 by this morning. I think it was in the 30s a couple of days ago.

And she's the Care Minister. Where do the tories find these people.

oxford or cambridge (whately's oxford) via one of the elite private schools usually. Cunt factories.

 

[philosophical]

Could you clarify your concern?
I’m not sure what your question is.

What specifically worries you about the Excell Nightingale facility?

Probably stress on my part (I am old) but the excel thing comes across as a processing facility, a death warehouse.

 

[Teaboy]

Even I know the figure was way above 19 by this morning. I think it was in the 30s a couple of days ago.

And she's the Care Minister. Where do the tories find these people.

Well, you know. She may just be fibbing a bit. Had she given a number the obvious follow up question would have been '...and how may could have been saved by proper PPE?'.

Also if the number is high, really high than that's going to be toxic for morale. Got to keep the spirits up etc. War footing stuff isn't it? Easier all round to just dodge the question, she is a politician after all.

 

[Petcha]

I know the fact the Skype feed was freezing did her no favours. But still. You'd think before going up against one of the toughest interviewers going around (and he went quite easy on her really) you might have some basic facts to hand.

 

[belboid]

Probably stress on my part (I am old) but the excel thing comes across as a processing facility, a death warehouse.

its a hospital. If you get proper ill, go to hospital, simple as that. People have died because they're avoiding hospitals, the daft cunts.

 

[Chilli.s]

Starmer interviewed on the BBC this morning was the first politician I've seen basically saying, "Clapping every week is all very well, but what we should be doing is paying these people more and fundamentally changing the way we think about what essential work is."

And about time too. Too little too late I feel.

 

[keybored]

Even I know the figure was way above 19 by this morning. I think it was in the 30s a couple of days ago.

And she's the Care Minister. Where do the tories find these people.

Worst Paul Hardcastle mix ever.

 

[Teaboy]

Probably stress on my part (I am old) but the excel thing comes across as a processing facility, a death warehouse.

I understand this. The place looks like a war hospital. Actually though it looks to have partitions and a level of privacy so probably better than a lot of existing hospital wards.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

I know the fact the Skype feed was freezing did her no favours.

I don't understand why the national news is still constantly struggling with video chat. Why don't they just put up a static photo and just use the audio feed, like they do in plenty of other situations? For some reason they seem to think if we can't see the spare room bookshelves in a choppy video it's not a real "pandemic interview".

 

[Petcha]

I don't understand why the national news is still constantly struggling with video chat. Why don't they just put up a static photo and just use the audio feed, like they do in plenty of other situations? For some reason they seem to think if we can't see the spare room bookshelves in a choppy video it's not a real "pandemic interview".

I'm quite enjoying the 'Battle of the Bookshelves'. Who can look the most well read/pretentious/intellectual/full of shit.

I'm pretty sure some of them are binge shopping on Amazon when they learn they've been booked for an interview.

 

[andysays]

its a hospital. If you get proper ill, go to hospital, simple as that. People have died because they're avoiding hospitals, the daft cunts.

Not wanting have a go, but I can understand why at least some people might want to steer clear of hospitals ATM, and it isn't necessarily because they're daft cunts

 

[Numbers]

I'm quite enjoying the 'Battle of the Bookshelves'. Who can look the most well read/pretentious/intellectual/full of shit.

I'm pretty sure some of them are binge shopping on Amazon when they learn they've been booked for an interview.

In my background is a life/nude painting of my wife from behind.

 

[philosophical]

its a hospital. If you get proper ill, go to hospital, simple as that. People have died because they're avoiding hospitals, the daft cunts.

Which is why I would be reassured by percentages of virus hospitalisations treated and recovered. I would personally rather die at home than in excel where the message I get is about frightened staff.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

In my background is a life/nude painting of my wife from behind.

Our CTO has a painting of Will Ferrell and John C Reilly from the movie Step Brothers behind his desk.

 

[LDC]

Which is why I would be reassured by percentages of virus hospitalisations treated and recovered. I would personally rather die at home than in excel where the message I get is about frightened staff.

What? I think you're wildly and inaccurately speculating about these things you know very little about.

 

[kabbes]

Not wanting have a go, but I can understand why at least some people might want to steer clear of hospitals ATM, and it isn't necessarily because they're daft cunts

Is it because of the intractability of the Irish border?

 

[Pickman's model]

the coronavirus pandemic could be followed by a measles epidemic as loads of children haven't had their injections because of the current situation

Officials warn coronavirus impact could trigger measles outbreak | LocalGov

The UK is at risk of a measles outbreak if routine vaccinations are delayed due to the coronavirus pandemic, the Measles & Rubella Initiative has warned.

www.localgov.co.uk

 

[Pickman's model]

What? I think you're wildly and inaccurately speculating about these things you know very little about.

you say it like it's a bad thing when it is the urban way

 

[philosophical]

What? I think you're wildly and inaccurately speculating about these things you know very little about.

Yes
You are right

 

[editor]

SIX MILLION QUID!

Proper hero.

Hero Tom Moore's fundraiser passes £9,000,000 for the NHS

Captain Tom Moore, 99, has raised an incredible £8,000,000 for the NHS, smashing his original target to raise £1,000.

metro.co.uk

 

[Petcha]

In my background is a life/nude painting of my wife from behind.

It would be amazing if one of them showed up with something totally inappropriate behind them... suggestions on a postcard...

I've not been asked to appear on the beeb yet but this would be mine. The Brazillian Institute for Oriental Studies. Lighten the mood a little.

any excuse to post that

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Is it because of the intractability of the Irish border?

I'd be apprehensive about going to hospital for a non-covid19 matter at the moment, tbf.

 

[Teaboy]

Which is why I would be reassured by percentages of virus hospitalisations treated and recovered. I would personally rather die at home than in excel where the message I get is about frightened staff.

There was a some stats thrown around on the 'Johnson is ill thread' which suggested your chances are decent if you can stay out of ICU and and stay of a respirator. Your chances are not great (50/50 or worse) if both those things happen. Ending up in hospital doesn't mean ICU though.

But all this is pretty meaningless because there will be factors personal to you which cannot be reflected in raw data.

My mum is in a situation where she has decided that she will not be going to a hospital regardless of how ill she gets. Its an individual decision but either way you need to make sure someone can advocate for you and respect your decisions. Crappy times to say the least.

 

[treelover]

I'm quite enjoying the 'Battle of the Bookshelves'. Who can look the most well read/pretentious/intellectual/full of shit.

I'm pretty sure some of them are binge shopping on Amazon when they learn they've been booked for an interview.

american prof on sky news today, and behind him, was a small bust, of well a bust, with glowing breasts, it may have been some kind of art, not sure.

 

[treelover]

Not wanting have a go, but I can understand why at least some people might want to steer clear of hospitals ATM, and it isn't necessarily because they're daft cunts

its a shocking comment, many people with M.E, etc, are terrified of hospitals, superbugs, etc, that they won't come out, Belboid has form unfortunately, blinker on in some cases.

 

[elbows]

Scotlands equivalent of the ONS gives further hints about the true scale of deaths:

Quarter of Scottish coronavirus deaths in care homes

New figures from the National Records of Scotland suggest a total of 962 deaths have been linked to Covid-19.

www.bbc.co.uk

The majority of these deaths occurred in hospital, but 25% were in care homes and 13% in other settings.

In the week from 6 to 12 April, the virus was mentioned in 31% of all deaths registered in Scotland.

 

[bimble]

The excel Nightingale facility, far as I can see it’s to be staffed by nurses and doctors from the existing nhs staff? Anybody read anything about how that works (I mean given that we had serious shortages of both before this virus was even born)?

 

[treelover]

I think it has military medical personel as well.

Was the 10 day build hospital in China fully utilised?