wayward bob
i ate all your bees
those numbers are somewhat reassuring. i keep expecting it to skyrocket at some point, glad we're not there yet.
Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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cupid_stunt
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Fez909
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Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
I wasn't really predicting, as there's no real way to do so, only really an exercise in what various rates might look like later
lazythursday
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Haven't they said that as of today they are testing everyone attending / in hospital with a respiratory problem? How long does it take for the test results to come in? Because it seems to me this will be the crunch moment - either an enormous surge or a sigh of relief.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
Are we testing fewer people because fewer people are presenting/requesting? Or because fewer people can say 'yes I have definitely had contact that conforms with your criteria for testing'?
How many in London yesterday? I have it in my head it was 60 but that might have been from days ago.
How many in London yesterday? I have it in my head it was 60 but that might have been from days ago.
wayward bob
i ate all your bees
re school closures i think zoe williams has it spot on
www.theguardian.com
School closures will lay bare the private struggles so many of us endure | Zoe Williams
The likely coronavirus response will disrupt family life and show just how many people, young and old, need care, says Guardian columnist Zoe Williams
what levels are they expecting at this peak?
elbows
Well-Known Member
Finally starting to see some grumbling in the press about the UK response.
www.theguardian.com
Coronavirus confusion as NHS helpline gives out wrong advice
Travellers returning to UK from Italy told no need to isolate as sixth death announced
elbows
Well-Known Member
If it becomes endemic and seasonal, that doesnt mean it is also going to be incorrectly rebranded as influenza. It is not influenza.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
It is right, both on the subject of carers and more generally about the general unsustainability of so much of how modern society is set up (even in normal times leading to people's lives being fucked when just some small thing becomes impossible), the pointlessness of GDP as the primary measure of social health, and so on.re school closures i think zoe williams has it spot on
School closures will lay bare the private struggles so many of us endure | Zoe Williams
The likely coronavirus response will disrupt family life and show just how many people, young and old, need care, says Guardian columnist Zoe Williams
Will this change perceptions long term though? Tbh I don't think it will. In six months' time we'll just have all the same bullshit. Any attempt to look at the social conditions will be shunned in the media as "politicising a tragedy".
elbows
Well-Known Member
I can imagine various different outcomes, but I have absolutely no sense of which ones will be more likely. There are some interesting possibilities along the lines of demanding something better in exchange for our sacrifices, very unlike what happened with austerity. A big reason that might not happen is people just ending up weary and desperate for a sense of normality. But depending on whats collapsed, that might not be possible anyway, at which point perhaps other priorities could rise up.
Cloo
Banana for scale
It is scary to think that I am 42 and have never faced the slightest real national crisis, I mean, nothing that has in any meaningful way disrupted day-to-day life en-masse. Let alone potentially (let's face it, probably) affecting everyone. For weeks.
I don't think we're well set up to deal with this in any way, logistical or psychological.
I'm quite taken with an idea I read on Twitter where someone was saying we cannot hope for anything like real productivity working from home, far better, where possible, for people to do just what it takes to keep things moving for just a few hours a day, a few days a week, and concentrate on looking after our mental and physical needs and our families. Obviously, that's not going to be an option for every worker, but when discussing with my manager (seeing as our job is not critical to anything) I want to suggest we take this approach and not expect 7 hours a day 5 days a week from anyone if it comes to lockdown, which I think she'll be open to.
I don't think we're well set up to deal with this in any way, logistical or psychological.
I'm quite taken with an idea I read on Twitter where someone was saying we cannot hope for anything like real productivity working from home, far better, where possible, for people to do just what it takes to keep things moving for just a few hours a day, a few days a week, and concentrate on looking after our mental and physical needs and our families. Obviously, that's not going to be an option for every worker, but when discussing with my manager (seeing as our job is not critical to anything) I want to suggest we take this approach and not expect 7 hours a day 5 days a week from anyone if it comes to lockdown, which I think she'll be open to.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
I'm really going
I didn't have much luck with that with my line manager in our meeting a few minutes ago.
she accused me of panicking when I said we should be facilitating WFH as much as possible asap rather than wait til italageddon or the govt lockdown the whole city, but is in a panic herself that someone might get one over her by not being as productive as usual.
I didn't have much luck with that with my line manager in our meeting a few minutes ago.
she accused me of panicking when I said we should be facilitating WFH as much as possible asap rather than wait til italageddon or the govt lockdown the whole city, but is in a panic herself that someone might get one over her by not being as productive as usual.clandestino
no llevar papel
Pessimistic view of what might happen:
The 27 EU leaders are currently taking part in a teleconference summit on the coronavirus outbreak. Their conclusion is that all countries across the EU should go into lockdown to stop the spread of the virus. The UK, having just left the EU and being run by fucking idiots, decides that this needn't apply in this country, and we blunder on regardless. The virus continues to spread in the UK while it slows down in the EU. By the time we realise the EU were right, it's too late. Brexit turns out to be a bigger fuck up than we'd initially feared.
Doom-mongering, right? It could never pan out like this...
The 27 EU leaders are currently taking part in a teleconference summit on the coronavirus outbreak. Their conclusion is that all countries across the EU should go into lockdown to stop the spread of the virus. The UK, having just left the EU and being run by fucking idiots, decides that this needn't apply in this country, and we blunder on regardless. The virus continues to spread in the UK while it slows down in the EU. By the time we realise the EU were right, it's too late. Brexit turns out to be a bigger fuck up than we'd initially feared.
Doom-mongering, right? It could never pan out like this...
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
She sounds a right charmer. Cough all over her at every opportunity.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
I mean that's not what she said of course. Something about people not having their usual routine blah blah. I'm more annoyed because having people WFH as much as possible over the next couple of months is just the socially responsible thing to do. If I have to come to work I want to share the tube with as few people as possible.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
She sounds quite unreasonable though, although she might be getting pressure from above. I'm the complete opposite - I tell the team if they need to work from home (not just at the moment) for whatever reason to just do it. We normally do 2/3 days a week at home as a rule anyway, but often 5 where need be.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Or the pressure could be self-generated, based on what they think expectations are, what they think they are supposed to promote in their role, or just their own personal attitude to work and illness. Large, dramatic shocks are often required to dislodge their thinking from the stale rails of normality.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
The local story here is that the owner of Nottingham Forest has a confirmed case of covid-19, and met with the entire team late last week.
So there goes promotion for yet another season.
So there goes promotion for yet another season.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Bright side: try to see it as delaying the heartache of relegation.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I wonder at what stage we just start ourselves avoiding groups of people? Even if the instruction has not yet come down from on high. It isn't just that I would rather not get the virus, more significantly I wouldn't like to be the one that infected others during an incubation period. I usually go to my camera club on a Wednesday, there are between 35 and 45 people there usually, many of them retired, if I don't have it I could catch it, if I do have it I could infect others.
elbows
Well-Known Member
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Seeing how few are infected in my county perhaps my thought in the post above is premature.
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