Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[Athos]

Right there look, right there was where you showed your true interest in this debate. Fucking shame on anyone using this situation to shit on any group of people they simply don't like for whatever unrelated reason.

I don't like people who prioritise their hobby over others' lives.

 

[wayward bob]

Does this include Tesco?

sainsbury's only i'm afraid. most of the time it tells me to go away (fair enough) or click-and-collect (never once seen a spot), but if they have free slots (usually a day or two in advance) they let me book.

 

[Athos]

Yeah I mean I'm getting unreasonably annoyed and I know i need to calm down. Shit i had to go out the house twice yesterday and feel really guilty about it. This thing is affecting us all in different ways

If you have to, you have to e.g. to buy food or medicine. Nobody has to ride a push bike for fun, though though. My kids are able to understand why they can't go out on their bikes, but some grown men don't seem to get it, or to care.

 

[Raheem]

Yeah, that would be exactly the same as buying a take-away coffee.

Tbf, rightly or wrongly, it's within the rules to sell a takeaway coffee, so buying one must be allowed. Even if it needn't be.

 

[SpookyFrank]

If you have to, you have to e.g. to buy food or medicine. Nobody has to ride a push bike, though though.

What about essential workers who need to get to work and don't have a car? A bike is transportation.

Plenty of people are driving around for amusement purposes only, many treating the half-empty roads as some sort of erstaz racetrack and directly putting lives at risk in the process. You're not moaning about on them because they're not people you hated before this pandemic thing happened.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The people I work(ed) for have a project to give free bikes to essential workers who need them. You get less exposure risk on a bike than on public transport. The scheme has proven very popular.

 

[hegley]

Nobody has to ride a push bike, though though.

Walking, running and cycling were the three forms of exercise that Boris Johnson said were okay.

 

[Cid]

Oh come on. Quite apart from you ignoring the fact they're in a group of three, using the shop for non-essential purposes, and sitting on the green, it's quite easy to exercise at home.

In what way is it easy to exercise at home?

 

[Sprocket.]

There was a chief constable I think for Devon & Cornwall, on the tv on Friday.
Saying how dismayed he was that the fear of being fined for making unnecessary journeys had more effect than the fact that nearly 700 people had died in the previous twenty four hours.

 

[B.I.G]

In what way is it easy to exercise at home?

How is it not?

Joke post.

 

[Anju]

I wouldn't buy a takeaway coffee because to drink it I have to put my lips on something someone has just had their hands all over. Same with things like using my phone when in the supermarket, seems a pointless risk to put something to my face after touching a load of stuff others have been touching yet plenty of people seemed to be using theirs when I shopped a couple of days ago.

Eta. Are people thinking gloves offer protection?

 

[Athos]

What about essential workers who need to get to work and don't have a car? A bike is transportation.

Plenty of people are driving around for amusement purposes only, many treating the half-empty roads as some sort of erstaz racetrack and directly putting lives at risk in the process. You're not moaning about on them because they're not people you hated before this pandemic thing happened.

If you have to ride a bike to work, then that's essential. Quite different from hobby riding.

I've seen no evidence whatsoever of the latest phenomenon; if it's happening, I think that's stupid and selfish, too.

 

[SpookyFrank]

If you have to ride a bike to work, then that's essential. Quite different from hobby riding.

So your assertion that 'nobody has to ride a push bike' was bollocks then? Interesting.

 

[Athos]

Walking, running and cycling were the three forms of exercise that Boris Johnson said were okay.

Oh, well, if Boris says it, it must be true.

 

[elbows]

Establishment shithead indulging in behaviour that suggests 'rules dont apply to me'.

Scotland's chief medical officer quits over second home row

Catherine Calderwood steps down after visiting second home twice despite advice to stay in

www.theguardian.com

Scotland’s chief medical officer (CMO) has been photographed visiting her family’s second home in Fife during the coronavirus pandemic, despite herself issuing advice to stay at home.

 

[Athos]

So your assertion that 'nobody has to ride a push bike' was bollocks then? Interesting.

I had credited you with the wit to understand (from the context) that we were talkng about hobby riding, rather than essential transport. But I've edited it now, just in case anyone else is similarly hard of thinking.

 

[SpookyFrank]

There was a chief constable I think for Devon & Cornwall, on the tv on Friday.
Saying how dismayed he was that the fear of being fined for making unnecessary journeys had more effect than the fact that nearly 700 people had died in the previous twenty four hours.

Apparently they've had police stationed at junction 27 turning back anyone with a car full of people and luggage. I don't approve of people going on holiday to Devon during a pandemic, but I'd have to admit that's at least 60% because I grew up in Devon and so I hate everyone who goes there on holiday anyway.

 

[Athos]

In what way is it easy to exercise at home?

Sit ups, press ups, homemade weights, jogging on the spot. Christ.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I had credited you with the wit to understand (from the context) that we were talkng about hobby riding, rather than essential transport. But I've edited it now, just in case anyone else is similarly hard of thinking.

I always (used to) enjoy my cycle commute to work. Did that somehow render it non-essential?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Coronavirus: Public urged to follow 'mission-critical' rules

The health secretary criticised "unbelievable" behaviour after people packed into sunny public parks.

www.bbc.co.uk

Today’s sunny weather will be the test.

 

[Cid]

Sit ups, press ups, homemade weights, jogging on the spot. Christ.

Yeah jogging on the spot is a perfect replacement for a half hour run. And assuming you don’t have a downstairs neighbour to piss off.

 

[Athos]

I always (used to) enjoy my cycle commute to work. Did that somehow render it non-essential?

If it was during the pandemic and you had a job you couldn't do from home, then no.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Sit ups, press ups, homemade weights, jogging on the spot. Christ.

So just fuck off all the psychological benefits of outdoor excercise because you don't approve of it.

There will be suicides as a result of this lockdown, there will be permanent harm to the mental health of large numbers of people. Just saying 'stay inside or people die' doesn't cut it. It's lazy bullshit, and it's lazy bullshit that comes directly from a government in a state of desperation at their own failure to manage this situation properly, and at the political rather than the public health implications of that failure.

 

[Athos]

Yeah jogging on the spot is a perfect replacement for a half hour run. And assuming you don’t have a downstairs neighbour to piss off.

Fucking improvise, then! Of course it's not the same. Nothing is. We all have to recognise that and make sacrifices accordingly.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Today’s sunny weather will be the test.

No it won't. the decisions have already been made. Sunny weather is just the pretext.

 

[LDC]

Yeah jogging on the spot is a perfect replacement for a half hour run. And assuming you don’t have a downstairs neighbour to piss off.

FFS there's like a million exercise things online to show you what can do in your home that aren't jogging on the spot.

 

[Labourite]

Coronavirus: Public urged to follow 'mission-critical' rules

The health secretary criticised "unbelievable" behaviour after people packed into sunny public parks.

www.bbc.co.uk

Today’s sunny weather will be the test.

Down to stupid morons having a BBQ like those on Brighton beach. Clowns.

 

[weepiper]

Tbf Athos you're not considering that other people live in different circumstances to your own. I've lived in a tenement flat where there literally is not enough clear floor space to do press ups, and where if you jog on the spot your downstairs neighbour will lose patience with you very quickly. Where I've struggled to keep children acceptably quiet for the neighbours even when they're not trapped inside all day.

 

[Sue]

The self discipline of having several palaces to choose from and the RAF to fly you to whichever one you fancy and servants to carry on providing you with the fucking lifestyle you fucking have all the fucking time anyway.

“Here in Balmoral one really notices nobody is out and about on the private grouse moors”. As usual.

Oops, started typing, changed my mind then accidentally posted.

 

[elbows]

So just fuck off all the psychological benefits of outdoor excercise because you don't approve of it.

There will be suicides as a result of this lockdown, there will be permanent harm to the mental health of large numbers of people. Just saying 'stay inside or people die' doesn't cut it. It's lazy bullshit, and it's lazy bullshit that comes directly from a government in a state of desperation at their own failure to manage this situation properly, and of the political rather than the public health implications of that failure.

Even Singapore has moved to a state of lockdown (although there is always devil in detail as to how far a particular lockdown goes) and they cannot be accused of botching the initial response.