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Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

Mation said:
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What?

"The result showed that 59% of the 1.5 million people who participated and tested positive, noticed a loss of smell and taste."

Surely just 1.5 million who participated. If they tested positive too, then testing is vastly under-reported.

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Apparently 1.5m who downloaded a symptom tracker app. I'm amazed they got that many people tbh, seen nothing about it. I suppose they're hoping to get a better idea if/when antigen testing rolls around. The BBC's reporting in that bit you quoted seems really fucking shoddy... :confused:
 
Cid said:
I think so, yeah.
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They do. I didn't notice the location tracking bit before, though.

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Mation said:
They do. I didn't notice the location tracking bit before, though.

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You're probably getting bored from hearing this now mate but I'm so grateful for your posts on this, its given me a source I can trust for balanced analysis and it's the reason why I got my parents to isolate over a week early which could save their lives. It also meant I could make out I knew...
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Ah... I can see how that might be useful in identifying potential hotspots with minimal testing... If you could do community sampling and work out some band of symptoms that fits particularly well, you could see whether that pattern shows up elsewhere (e.g somewhere with a large percentage of fever, dry cough and loss of taste as opposed to somewhere with a high percentage of fever and blocked nose). Though that would also be affected by demographics and other factors, but I guess still useful.
 
I was eavesdropping on a conversation outside TK Maxx - a guy was passionately arguing that "they should just lock up all the over-70s" and let everyone else go back to normal. After the economic damage and job losses and increased poverty and evictions I think a lot of people will share that view. The bail-out money will be all used up on the government's priorities and the people at the bottom will suffer all over again - for them it will be austerity x 10.
 
David Clapson said:
I was eavesdropping on a conversation outside TK Maxx - a guy was passionately arguing that "they should just lock up all the over-70s" and let everyone else go back to normal. After the economic damage and job losses and increased poverty and evictions I think a lot of people will share that view. The bail-out money will be all used up on the government's priorities and the people at the bottom will suffer all over again - for them it will be austerity x 10.
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Economy aside it's a total non-starter. For example there are 4 million 40-44 year olds, and this group has a hospitalisation rate of 4.3% which means 172,000 hospital beds needed just for them within a few weeks.
 
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bimble said:
is it this one?
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Looks like they want everyone to join, even if you feel completely well.
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Yep. I've been on it for a week now. It's also useful to know who's still well, and of course if we then do start to develop symptoms, we're already being tracked even if we never make it to the hospital. Absent an effective testing regime, I can see all kinds of ways this study could be useful if enough people sign up to it.

I'm normally resistant to this kind of monitoring, but I think circumstances make this an exception.
 
Talking to a funeral director mate this morning, they are now dealing with their first 4 Covid-19 cases, two are local, one from London & the other from Hampshire, returning to Worthing for their funerals. :(

Apparently the crematorium will be operating on Good Friday & Easter Monday, with plans in place for longer working hours & operating weekends, if required.
 
An interesting and sobering short article in The Guardian about the care most Covid-patients that have to go to hospital are likely to receive, and the different sets of healthcare workers that will look after them and what they have to do
www.theguardian.com

From ambulance to physio: what a Covid-19 NHS patient should expect

Hospital and ambulance staff from paramedics to radiographers share their experiences
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
What that article fails to say is that some of clinical staff will be sleep-deprived, having to deal with double the number of patients and perhaps not working in their usual specialism. There will be fuck-ups, standards of care will oscillate and some patients will have a far more unpleasant time than they should. Some will have worse outcomes than they should, with longer recovery periods and some deaths. (I'm not a clinician, just a one-time ICU patient when mistakes were made.)
 
Gove must be thinking along the lines of cometh the hour cometh the man as he utters his measured and rehearsed sentences at the briefings.
 
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With a likely 15 days more until the impact of Johnson's pivot to 'lockdown' could impact on death rates.
 
This thread is for lockdown news in theory not general news, the other thread I think is for that, although it's not helped by the fact there are 2 threads that have UK news in the title. Maybe we could make this one UK lockdown news and discussion and the other one UK general news and discussion editor
 
LynnDoyleCooper said:
This thread is for lockdown news in theory not general news, the other thread I think is for that, although it's not helped by the fact there are 2 threads that have UK news in the title. Maybe we could make this one UK lockdown news and discussion and the other one UK general news and discussion editor
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The other one is not for general news or discussions. If the word epidemic was inserted into the title of the other thread then maybe it would help.

This thread is not just for lockdown news. The pace of this one moves faster than the other one because discussions are involved. I mostly use the other one as a reference point that it is not too hard to look back at later without being overwhelmed by discussion and other topics rather than the science, numbers, epidemic modelling etc that the other one is mostly managing to stick to so far. I dont think it matters if some of that news also ends up duplicated in this one.

I know its not perfect, there are other ways things could be divided, but I am against further mucking around at this stage, I think it will be fine.
 
Wilf said:
That's 563+ iirc (doesn't include those who died outside of hospitals). And with the criminal lack of testing it's quite hard to know whether we are at peaks, flattened curves or what. :(
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Yep we're totally in the dark. We have to try going by patterns from elsewhere in terms of how things are changing x days after lockdown. But we really still can have no idea how bad things were already at the point of lockdown, and that appears to be crucial wrt what level things reach before flattening.

They're now saying they'll have capacity for 25,000 tests per day by the end of April. That's not nearly good enough. Just in time, hopefully, for the peak to have come and gone already. :facepalm:
 
As I've said before, the numbers released on a given day did not reflect the deaths within a 24 hour period, some of them were for much, much earlier. I dont know to what extent that will improve, since I am not fortunate enough to actually receive that data in full form every day, only the press get it :mad:
 
elbows said:
The other one is not for general news or discussions. If the word epidemic was inserted into the title of the other thread then maybe it would help.

This thread is not just for lockdown news. The pace of this one moves faster than the other one because discussions are involved. I mostly use the other one as a reference point that it is not too hard to look back at later without being overwhelmed by discussion and other topics rather than the science, numbers, epidemic modelling etc that the other one is mostly managing to stick to so far. I dont think it matters if some of that news also ends up duplicated in this one.

I know its not perfect, there are other ways things could be divided, but I am against further mucking around at this stage, I think it will be fine.
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OK, I was told that myself a bit ago. Anyway fine but I'm finding I'm missing things and it feels a bit of a mess to follow now though. Maybe just the titles could be clearer.
 
Or we could just have one huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge thread so EVERYTHING's together and we can search for whatever we want on it.

Ah I see you can search by forum - as you were :)
 
Petcha said:
Jesus christ LinkedIn is depressing right now in my industry. Any job that does pop up is greeted by thousands of applications and the number of even very senior people fishing around for work is even more depressing. We're fucked. This is unreal. All the recruitment consultants I used to get work with seem to have lost their jobs too. And I really can't see it recovering for a very, very long time. Nobody's got any budget for hires.
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i am still struggling for carers,. but I suppose people want to do this even less, now given possible risks.
 
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