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Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Don't put the location up...they'll be hordes of hoarders descending!No idea. My local Tesco was fully stocked as usual this morning.
Don't put the location up...they'll be hordes of hoarders descending!No idea. My local Tesco was fully stocked as usual this morning.
Suppose I should know this, but is that a fairly standard knee-jerk reaction to a crisis/threatened breakdown in the norm?One factor is that people saw shortages of toilet rolls in other countries being reported for weeks on end.
Another is they take up a lot of shelf space so their absence is more visually dramatic and there are more obvious limits to how many are on the shelves and taking up store room space.
Suppose I should know this, but is that a fairly standard knee-jerk reaction to a crisis/threatened breakdown in the norm?
I was wondering along similar lines. Is it possibly the 24 hour lag they were talking about? I assumed that was just in relation to the geographical information, but it could mean today will be missed out in order to set the timelag going on the numbers as well.I am presently wondering whether the talk and backlash regarding UK switching to only publishing geographical info weekly, and subsequent comments today about how they will still give that info, but delayed 24 hours, was actually about more than just the geography.
I say that only because I dont yet see any signs of the daily UK numbers update which is normally published at 2pm.
This post could obviously become obsolete rather quickly, and I know that an update to the Scottish numbers came this morning. And I might have missed something else today, I'm not exactly on top of the streams of info.
But given the moment we are at, with the threshold of 100 confirmed cases soon to be crossed, or the possibility of quite large leaps in daily figures, I am bound to wonder about this.
Part of the reason given for the 24 hour delay was to check that all the diagnosis were correct, there was a false positive the other day which meant they gave out the wrong figure and then had to revise later.I was wondering along similar lines. Is it possibly the 24 hour lag they were talking about? I assumed that was just in relation to the geographical information, but it could mean today will be missed out in order to set the timelag going on the numbers as well.
AKA, I don't know.
Whitty addressed this at the Heath committee hearing:I am presently wondering whether the talk and backlash regarding UK switching to only publishing geographical info weekly, and subsequent comments today about how they will still give that info, but delayed 24 hours, was actually about more than just the geography.
I say that only because I dont yet see any signs of the daily UK numbers update which is normally published at 2pm.
This post could obviously become obsolete rather quickly, and I know that an update to the Scottish numbers came this morning. And I might have missed something else today, I'm not exactly on top of the streams of info.
But given the moment we are at, with the threshold of 100 confirmed cases soon to be crossed, or the possibility of quite large leaps in daily figures, I am bound to wonder about this.
OK, I'll ask...why have the shops been cleared of bog-roll?
Not a single sheet in my Lidls.
What's that all about, then?
Yeah, a given.Presumably partly because people really, really dont want to run out of toilet roll.
UK cases of coronavirus jumps to 115
The department of health confirmed that as of 9am on 5 March 2020, 18,083 people have been tested in the UK, of which 17,968 were confirmed negative and 115 were confirmed as positive.
UK health officials are moving towards the second phase of their response to the coronavirus outbreak. It comes as the number of people diagnosed with coronavirus in the UK reached 115.
The latest government figures released on Thursday showed that of the total number of cases, 25 are in London.
NHS region | Cases |
---|---|
East of England | 8 |
London | 25 |
Midlands | 9 |
North East and Yorkshire | 10 |
North West | 17 |
South East | 17 |
South West | 15 |
To be determined | 4 |
Total | 105 |
Many, many thanks, elbows for your erudite and informative information which you dispense without hyperbole or scaremongering. You are the Dr John Campbell of Urban and I am promoting your contributions on other forums. Do you know if there is any way to volunteer to help out in some way such as manning phones or such like? I am currently on quarantine with my wife for 14 days after returning from a holiday in Thailand and we have coughs and sore throats which is not difficult for us as we are retired but for the self-employed just making do I can't imagine it's an option. When we left Thailand everyone was screened with a heat camera by a medical team and two elderly gents were 'detained' for further examination no doubt and that's for people leaving the country. At Heathrow - nothing - just a photocopied piece of paper telling us if we have symptoms of a cough, shortness of breath or fever that we should stay indoors and call 111. I fear we are just weeks away from all hell breaking loose in terms of numbers, lockdowns and hospitals under siege, wish it was otherwise but given the inexorable logic of this nasty, vicious virus means it is almost a given. It is now our war, a world war - a war on this virus that will probably last 6 months or more and shape our lives forever.
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Encouraging to have this guy in charge - a derided expert no less!
“Thank God he’s where he is to maintain some sense of sanity about all this coronavirus business,” Mabey added. “He’s an absolutely extraordinary, brilliant man. They couldn’t have a better person in charge. He’s exactly the man we need.”
Prof Chris Whitty: the expert we need in the coronavirus crisis
Even No 10 has realised the value of the ‘impressive’ chief medical officer for Englandwww.theguardian.com
I hope you're right for all our sakes paranoid fucker that I am ! Is there mileage in the more hopeful scenario that far more people have this than are being tested and only ones with problems present themselves for testing and therefore the mortality rate is much much lower than some figures suggest? (Currently WHO are saying 3.5%).grief! dial the drama down a notch
Hope you and your wife are okay phillmI hope you're right for all our sakes paranoid fucker that I am ! Is there mileage in the more hopeful scenario that far more people have this than are being tested and only ones with problems present themselves for testing and therefore the mortality rate is much much lower than some figures suggest? (Currently WHO are saying 3.5%).
grief! dial the drama down a notch
Thanks wilf kind words are always lovely - sorting our stuff around the house and getting over jet lag. It is a nagging worry though and not something probably any of us have experienced in our lives up till now. Having seen the responses in country after country now I think we can assume this isn't just panic but something much more serious as much as I would like to believe this is pretty bad but amplified many times by internet,social media hysteria.Hope you and your wife are okay phillm
If you can't get hold of any alcohol gel then I would be carrying around anti bacterial hand wash and kitchen roll. Most people have hot water.Soap and water isn’t available when you are out on visits, in and out of homes and meetings and some days barely go near the office. So no, soap is not the only thing needed.
UK coronavirus cases jump to 115
'We will continue to try to contain this virus. However, it is now highly likely that the virus is going to spread in a significant way', government spokesperson sayswww.independent.co.uk
115 now? It was 90 earlier.
Public Health England said in a briefing on Thursday evening that they’re now treating confirmed cases with mild symptoms at home and not in hospitals. 45 cases are now being treated at home.
It was also confirmed that travellers returning from all of Italy, not just north, were now being advised to self isolate if they have symptoms. The tightening of the advice is understood to have been prompted by the recent surge in UK cases of people who recently come back from Italy, where the outbreak has escalated across the country in recent days.
Well it's certainly affecting people's minds before their bodies.
At the moment we're counting in stupidly low numbers - and panicking over that. The Guardian atm has the totally unsensational headline of "U.K numbers jump to 115." That's not a jump. It's barely a progression. What language (and amount of panic) are we going to see when we start counting in thousands and tens of thousands? The sensationalism is doing nothing for anyone. No amount of panic and fear is going to stop those numbers going up right now. What it will do is help clear the shelves of bog roll and hand sanitiser - ffs, a product not even as good as soap for some sort of protection.
By all means, be wary, and start to think about methods to slow the progress of this virus. But calling for the absolute shutdown of society based on 100 cases (sorry, I think the figure mentioned by someone on here was actually a massive 200 cases) is scare-mongering and leading to what we are beginning to see happening in some supermarkets.
And btw, I'm in the more at risk cohort, and work in a shite school with kids who last saw soap in 2011. And no amount of swapping fear with others will change that.
Public Health England said in a briefing on Thursday evening that they’re now treating confirmed cases with mild symptoms at home and not in hospitals. 45 cases are now being treated at home.
It was also confirmed that travellers returning from all of Italy, not just north, were now being advised to self isolate if they have symptoms. The tightening of the advice is understood to have been prompted by the recent surge in UK cases of people who recently come back from Italy, where the outbreak has escalated across the country in recent days.