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We’re holding our People’s Covid Inquiry now because we don’t think it’s too soon to start learning lessons about this crisis. People are still dying from COVID-19. We believe 100,000 deaths were avoidable. We all deserve to know how and why this happened. Learn lessons, save lives.

www.peoplescovidinquiry.com

People's Covid Inquiry Statement
With more that 100,000 deaths from Covid-19 we believe the public deserves to know how and why this has happened. The death toll will continue to rise for many months until vaccination starts to have an effect. In the meantime, learning the right lessons is urgent if lives are to be saved. Our ‘People’s Covid Inquiry’ will examine what has happened and how well the NHS was prepared.

We will invite oral, written and video testimony from NHS staff, other frontline workers and members of the public as well as hear expert evidence. There will be a series of online Zoom meetings where a panel will interrogate the evidence presented in these testimonies.

A powerful body of work will be developed to help understand how best to restore the NHS, public health and social care to the quality public services essential to look after people and keep them safe, both now and in the future.

 

[elbows]

I'd never heard of Patrick Dardis before but I hate him already.

Young & Co's Patrick Dardis accused the government of a "lack of respect" for the sector and of basing the decision to close pubs on "unproven" science - a claim which experts dispute.

Deliveroo: Run Eat Out to Help Out again, says takeaway giant

The takeaway firm and 300 restaurant groups say it would boost the sector when restrictions ease.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Chilli.s]

Could call it "New variant eat out"

 

[Badgers]

I'd never heard of Patrick Dardis before but I hate him already.

Deliveroo: Run Eat Out to Help Out again, says takeaway giant

The takeaway firm and 300 restaurant groups say it would boost the sector when restrictions ease.

www.bbc.co.uk

Opening up school's is important, although should not be rushed. Another 'eat out to help out' is just utter nonsense. Fucking fuckwits

 

[souljacker]

The only date mentioned by the government, so far, is the 8th March for some form of schools reopening, everything else is just noise created by the media to generate stories.

Johnson is not due to to set out the 'roadmap' until a week on Monday, a week is a long time when it comes to covid, so....

Johnson is taking the press conference tomorrow and some rumours are suggesting he will confirm schools returning on the 8th. I have a feeling he will state that that is the plan and will confirm it on the 22nd. Also rumours that we will also be allowed to go and meet someone in the park from the 8th which is great news as I'd really like to see some mates for a park beer sesh.

 

[Cloo]

I think meeting in the park is and should be totally fair game soon, it's really not high risk, but honestly don't think full school return should be before Easter, though I appreciate it many parents have it much harder than us, but at least do it gradually so it's easier to change tack if you need to.

 

[frogwoman]

I thought you could already meet someone for exercise?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I'd never heard of Patrick Dardis before but I hate him already.

Deliveroo: Run Eat Out to Help Out again, says takeaway giant

The takeaway firm and 300 restaurant groups say it would boost the sector when restrictions ease.

www.bbc.co.uk

Deliveroo are fucking parasites in basically every aspect of their business, and their positioning of themselves as "saviours of restaurants" (along with all the other parasites, to be fair - "other parasites are available") makes me want to punch the nearest object.

 

[Cloo]

I thought you could already meet someone for exercise?

Yes, but I think the suggestion is now you could sit down with them (distanced) and maybe even have a takeaway coffee, so it's purely socialising, not exercise. I think the idea at the moment is you should be moving around and not just sitting together.

 

[teuchter]

All a bit academic seeing as loads of people seem to have decided to resume outdoors socialising now anyway.

 

[William of Walworth]

Also rumours that we will also be allowed to go and meet someone in the park from the 8th which is great news as I'd really like to see some mates for a park beer sesh.

I thought you could already meet someone for exercise?

Raising a can or bottle exercise???

And in the PARK????

 

[xenon]

I thought you could already meet someone for exercise?

you can. You’re not supposed to stop and have a drink or whatever but honestly who gives a fuck. A few overzealous and ignorant of the law coppers aside.

 

[elbows]

Could call it "New variant eat out"

Fill yer plate to help the virus mutate.

Eat pies to help spike find a new disguise.

 

[Cloo]

Well I guess all sorts of rumours will circulate between now and Monday week and if they're suggest incompetence and wild overoptimism, they're probably true.

 

[Badgers]

Wtf?

Covid: HSE refuses to close workplaces that are putting employees at risk | Coronavirus | The Guardian

Labour minister calls for urgent review of government watchdog’s decision despite almost 3,500 coronavirus outbreaks at work

amp.theguardian.com

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Wtf?

Covid: HSE refuses to close workplaces that are putting employees at risk | Coronavirus | The Guardian

Labour minister calls for urgent review of government watchdog’s decision despite almost 3,500 coronavirus outbreaks at work

amp.theguardian.com

Look over there - those people in that park have a cup of coffee!

 

[teqniq]

What?

Covid-19: Schools not a 'major source' of transmission

A Public Health Agency presentation says school transmission "tends to be small scale".

www.bbc.com

 

[Chz]

Deliveroo are fucking parasites in basically every aspect of their business, and their positioning of themselves as "saviours of restaurants" (along with all the other parasites, to be fair - "other parasites are available") makes me want to punch the nearest object.

I've only got the one anecdote to add, but a local place I order from told me they're considerably less horrible to work with than Just Eat or Uber Eats.

I'm sure they're all awful, but you've gotta work with what you've got.

 

[Cid]

Wtf?

Covid: HSE refuses to close workplaces that are putting employees at risk | Coronavirus | The Guardian

Labour minister calls for urgent review of government watchdog’s decision despite almost 3,500 coronavirus outbreaks at work

amp.theguardian.com

Employment minister Mims Davies last week said Covid had been classified as “significant” rather than “serious”, as it “best supports inspectors in making sensible, proportionate regulatory decisions”. She added that effects of Covid were “non-permanent or reversible, non-progressive and any disability is temporary” for the working population as a whole.

Just... how can you even? What?

 

[Sunray]

What?

Covid-19: Schools not a 'major source' of transmission

A Public Health Agency presentation says school transmission "tends to be small scale".

www.bbc.com

Yeah? A complete contradiction on the basic guidelines we’ve all been following for a year.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Pauline Latham MP, a member of the Covid Recovery Group, has just been interviewed by Adam Boulton on Sky News, it started of as a reasonable discussion, but you could hear Boulton getting increasingly frustrated with her banging on about setting dates for re-opening, then he lost it a bit, 'setting dates is frankly thick, a stupid thing to do.'

 

[teqniq]

Yeah? A complete contradiction on the basic guidelines we’ve all been following for a year.

Also contradicts this, from June 2020:

Coronavirus: Fully reopening schools 'could cause second wave'

Scientists are concerned the test-and-trace system is not effective enough to prevent this.

www.bbc.com

It is, of course because the government wants to reopen schools on 8th March

 

[elbows]

Pauline Latham MP, a member of the Covid Recovery Group, has just been interviewed by Adam Boulton on Sky News, it started of as a reasonable discussion, but you could hear Boulton getting increasingly frustrated with her banging on about setting dates for re-opening, then he lost it a bit, 'setting dates is frankly thick, a stupid thing to do.'

Yeah I'm seeing more signs that lessons have been learnt by some of those whose instincts were to be too sympathetic towards the anti-lockdown idiots last time. The resurgence and second wave taught them something about listening too much to idiots.

eg:

Another senior Tory backbencher, Robert Halfon, said the PM needed to "provide some kind of optimism to the public" over lockdown easing, but warned against people relaxing too soon.

The chair of the Education Select Committee told BBC Radio 4's Westminster Hour: "I understand where [the Covid Recovery Group] are coming from and my heart has a lot of sympathy.

"I just don't want a repetition of what went on last year where we thought we were over the worst and then we're suddenly back in tiers of lockdown."

From Coronavirus: Plan to exit lockdown 'cautious but irreversible', says Boris Johnson

 

[Brainaddict]

Just... how can you even? What?

Ah, the famously reversible death. And that's before you even get to long covid, from which some people may not recover.

I don't know who the fuck this nonentity Mims Davies is but I can only wish a bad case of long covid on them.

 

[editor]

He's off again.

Wetherspoons calls for pubs to reopen 'to save jobs'

The chairman of the chain is calling for pubs to reopen at the same time as non-essential shops.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[elbows]

Johnson is a fuckwit for using the word irreversible.

Coronavirus: Plan to exit lockdown 'cautious but irreversible', says Boris Johnson

Boris Johnson says the government will set out its plans on 22 February, which could include target dates.

www.bbc.co.uk

Its meaningless anyway, if the circumstances demanded further restrictions then that is what they would eventually have to do again. And as we've already seen, they can always blame such scenarios on new variants of the virus.

Politically the tories have probably gotten away with their pandemic mismanagement so long as the overall vaccine-based approach does not fail. People will be overjoyed to gradually return to normality. Only if that gets scuppered will patience with Johnson & Co stand a chance of running out. And much as I would like to see culpable tories held to account, I would rather the pandemic exit strategy succeeds.

 

[StoneRoad]

I've said it before, and no doubt I'll say it again ...

The CRG are worshiping their money greed above all else and by doing so, are saying a big "fuck you" to all those who have suffered with Covid-19, both personally / directly but also those friends and families that have lost loved ones to a terrible death, and the medical professionals that have had to watch those deaths ...
The economy will recover, however long that takes, but medical science has not found a method to reverse those c120,000+ deaths in the UK or the almost 2 and a half million deaths world-wide (and those awful totals are probably well under the true figures).

And the next time they stand for re-election, they'll probably be returned to Parliament ... from party loyalty and a woefully short memory ...

 

[teqniq]

'Irreversible' lol. How many U-turns have they done so far?.

 

[Sunray]

Good to see calls for the totally failed Serco test and trace to be cancelled in favour of a system that does the job.

What are the people in T&T doing? I don’t think I’ve seen any effect of their work?

 

[Wilf]

What is it with that prick johnson, can't stop touching people. Elbow bumps are low risk, I'm sure, but ffs, leave alone!