Yeh, it seems more or less normal on the roads (though i don't travel at peak times). I was in town the other day to go to the children's hospital, it was quiet but not dead quiet; i can't compare to last lockdown as I didn't go in at all.
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Yeh, it seems more or less normal on the roads (though i don't travel at peak times). I was in town the other day to go to the children's hospital, it was quiet but not dead quiet; i can't compare to last lockdown as I didn't go in at all.
I'm convinced that levels of traffic busy-ness in towns must vary a lot between different places.
In Swansea, Wales' second largest city, traffic's been pretty low at all times of the day in my observation, compared to normal times.
And with all shops closed bar supermarkets**, offies, chemists and the Post Office, there've also been vastly fewer people walking about the city centre.
**And neither Lidls nor Sainsbury's were stupid-busy, either. Both now with stricter controls over numbers going in, as well.
Given that in normal times shopping has got to be Swansea's favourite pastime
even beyond pub-going, plenty of people here must be feeling very deprived of theor addiction ...... 
By contrast, there were lots of people dog-walking and just walking, also cycling, along the seafront yesterday (the weather was beautifully sunny, albeit freezing!
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But in the nearby carparks, the few cars that were there had been flyered under the windscreen wipers by the South Wales Police, warning people that you're not meant to drive to go for a walk!
You're meant to start and finish your walk (or bike-ride) at home, with no motoring included.
In Swansea, Wales' second largest city, traffic's been pretty low at all times of the day in my observation, compared to normal times.
And with all shops closed bar supermarkets**, offies, chemists and the Post Office, there've also been vastly fewer people walking about the city centre.
**And neither Lidls nor Sainsbury's were stupid-busy, either. Both now with stricter controls over numbers going in, as well.
Given that in normal times shopping has got to be Swansea's favourite pastime
even beyond pub-going, plenty of people here must be feeling very deprived of theor addiction ...... By contrast, there were lots of people dog-walking and just walking, also cycling, along the seafront yesterday (the weather was beautifully sunny, albeit freezing!
)But in the nearby carparks, the few cars that were there had been flyered under the windscreen wipers by the South Wales Police, warning people that you're not meant to drive to go for a walk!
You're meant to start and finish your walk (or bike-ride) at home, with no motoring included.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I was just coming to post the figures, the deaths are actually down 61 from last Sunday, when 671 were reported, first time that has happened in weeks.
But, of course, it's only one day, so doesn't mean much on its own.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I'm a bit confused - are we allowed to hug loved ones who are not in our households?
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
No. It's been one of the the main rules for nearly a year. You're supposed to socially distance from anyone not in your household/bubble.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Sorry, OU, the answer is still no, you can't hug.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
but ok in our bubbles? I've been seeing my nieces and nephew and hug them, though they are from two separate households
How many bubbles are you in?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Can you be in two? Haven't really been following it tbh.
maomao
普費斯
Are they childcare bubbles?
elbows
Well-Known Member
I was just coming to post the figures, the deaths are actually down 61 from last Sunday, when 671 were reported, first time that has happened in weeks.
But, of course, it's only one day, so doesn't mean much on its own.
Yes I wouldnt put too much weight on a weekend figure but a modest decrease would be consistent with what we've seen in other data including hospital data, and the way the rolling average of daily reported cases has lost much of its upwards momentum recently.
Thora
Differently Ethical
If they’re not in your household or bubble then you shouldn’t be going within 2m of them by the rules.
If you’re in a childcare bubble then I think it’s accepted that small children will need personal care though. But I don’t think you can be in a childcare bubble with two households, it’s supposed to be exclusive.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I haven't been following it because I haven't had to though...
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
No, not seeing them as often as we normally do but hugged my sister's kids at Xmas - impossible not to. And had a walk with my brother's eldest last week and hugged her goodbye. Didn't think much of it at the time, but have been reading of some people here not having any physical contact with anyone for ages.
editor
hiraethified
You're only supposed to be in one.
Covid: What are the social distancing rules?
Scotland and Wales are relaxing some of their restrictions around gatherings and mixing with others.
www.bbc.co.uk
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
we haven't been in anyone's houses apart from on Xmas day when they were all over at our place
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Gonna pretend I'm in Scotland!You're only supposed to be in one.
Covid: What are the social distancing rules?
Scotland and Wales are relaxing some of their restrictions around gatherings and mixing with others.www.bbc.co.uk
elbows
Well-Known Member
And that doesnt mean that I expect to see no further rise in certain death numbers at all. Its still too early to make that claim. Nor can I claim to know exactly what the peak levels will eventually turn out to be by date of death.
The weekend catchup figures that will come out on Tuesday and Wednesday could still be especially bad, for example. Or they might not be appreciably higher than the previous weeks. We are at leasst at the stage where I wouldnt want to predict either way, as opposed to always assuming the numbers will still climb.
It is also possible that certain forms of data may end up with aspects of the weather affecting them at times. Just to give one example, snow has affected some midlands test centres today.
prunus
Tick tock.
The use of the ‘bubble’ terminology is just another example of the literally lethally shit communications from the government - it’s used to cover several different scenarios with different internal rules (support bubbles, which are basically extended households, with no internal restrictions (though limited to one per household); childcare bubbles, where a child under 14 can be looked after by another household, but the adults in the 2 households cannot mix (NB both households can only have 1 childcare bubble - ie no-one else is allowed to look after the child, and the looking-after family cannot have a childcare bubble with anyone else), school year bubbles, in which mixing is not allowed, but is presumed to happen for the purposes of isolation - these ones apply only the the kids, and not the their families).
Support bubbles require at least one household to be a single adult, or a couple with a baby under 1 (or is it 2?) (plus some other exceptions such as disabled child under 5). Childcare bubbles only allow the children under 14 to move freely between the bubbles, effectively it’s only them are are in the bubbles. School year bubbles only operate in school, they don’t give license for the kids to socialise outside school
Note also that you cannot overlap childcare and support bubbles - so that eg if you are looking after under 14s from your childcare bubble you cannot also meet with members of your support bubble at the same time.
It’s no fucking wonder people are confused about the rules. Makes me furious.
Support bubbles require at least one household to be a single adult, or a couple with a baby under 1 (or is it 2?) (plus some other exceptions such as disabled child under 5). Childcare bubbles only allow the children under 14 to move freely between the bubbles, effectively it’s only them are are in the bubbles. School year bubbles only operate in school, they don’t give license for the kids to socialise outside school
Note also that you cannot overlap childcare and support bubbles - so that eg if you are looking after under 14s from your childcare bubble you cannot also meet with members of your support bubble at the same time.
It’s no fucking wonder people are confused about the rules. Makes me furious.
prunus
Tick tock.
Um, I know these are very difficult times for us all, but ‘I haven’t really been following [the rules that are put in place to try to keep us all safe]’ isn’t a very good moral position. As I’ve just written, a large part of the fault is with the communication, but all the communication in the world isn’t going to help if people aren’t really paying any attention. Perhaps please try to follow?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I can’t really follow it. My attention lapses at the best of times but even more during this crisis.
Does it? I'm on the Janssen trial (ENSEMBLE 2) and it's two injections around two months apart.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
There's a separate trial from the main one which uses two doses.
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
Technically, you should be choosing between your brother or your sister. And seeing as you live with your dad, you should only be doing that if one of your siblings is a single parent, as it is single adult households who can bubble with another household of any size.
We were fucking about with the bubbles; we had one with mate who lives on her own and another with another mate who lives on her own. But then one of them was seeing her mum too and another had a housemate move in and things got worse so we stopped. Initially, it felt absurd that I could go to work and my OH could go to school and could be exposed to loads of risk but we couldn’t have someone to sit on the other side of the living room, but then I also think that there are so many of us going ‘it’s just one person, what’s the harm’ and that then becomes an issue. It’s hard though, no judgement like.
We were fucking about with the bubbles; we had one with mate who lives on her own and another with another mate who lives on her own. But then one of them was seeing her mum too and another had a housemate move in and things got worse so we stopped. Initially, it felt absurd that I could go to work and my OH could go to school and could be exposed to loads of risk but we couldn’t have someone to sit on the other side of the living room, but then I also think that there are so many of us going ‘it’s just one person, what’s the harm’ and that then becomes an issue. It’s hard though, no judgement like.
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