Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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SpookyFrank
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Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations
Our vaccination dataset uses the most recent official numbers from governments and health ministries worldwide. Population estimates for per-capita metrics are based on the United Nations World Population Prospects. Income groups are based on the World Bank classification. A full list of our...ourworldindata.org
Pretty sure there aren't 1.43 million people in Iceland...
E2a: ah, that's 1.43 vaccinated per 100 people. So it might actually be true that the UK has vaccinated more people overall than the rest of Europe. Although if the question is, 'how many have had the correct dose of a vaccine in the UK' then the answer seems to be 'just Boris Johnson's dad'
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elbows
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It depends when the daily figure came out. Today it had not come out by the time the press conference began.
They certainly should. Most people atm are being pretty good about masks round here, but pretty much every time I go in the small Sainsbury's near me - thankfully the only fully enclosed shop I need to regularly - there's at least one person in there either maskless or with it below their nose, and they're never challenged. I did remark to the bloke packing my bag that the woman who'd just gone out - who'd come and stood right next to me and then looked at me as if I was weird when I took a step away - ought to have had a mask on, and he said, 'I agree, but we're not allowed to stop them.' FFS.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Yeah this is what happens when posters chop the description off their charts!
Here it is with useful info intact.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Yes you're right. I looked at the wrong chart.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Mask wearing in shops is law, not rules or guidelines.
prunus
Tick tock.
For customers and also, since September, staff (except for staff in banks and lawyers’ offices)
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
In Boots yesterday, there was a security guard who challenged a maskless guy. Who said he had a mask in his bag so the security guard let him in. AFAIK, they don't actually work if they're in your bag.
BCBlues
Lend us a Twenner
Pensioners 'walk the plank' to reach city's new vaccine centre Pensioners 'walk the plank' to reach city's new vaccine centre
Literally Walk the Plank.
I know it's not the main entrance but it's not a good look is it, and they've had enough time to prepare at Millennium Point.
Literally Walk the Plank.
I know it's not the main entrance but it's not a good look is it, and they've had enough time to prepare at Millennium Point.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It seems to continue the theme of "use a telephoto lens to make it look worse than it is" which has been so popular during this pandemic.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
It seems to continue the theme of "use a telephoto lens to make it look worse than it is" which has been so popular during this pandemic.
Honestly, do we not have enough stuff be legitimately upset about without just making shit up?
elbows
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When Hancock said 'dont blow it now' my response was 'You already blew it in September and then compounded the error by blowing it again in October, November and December!' Obviously there were errors before and after those months too, but looking at the most striking features of political failure to deal with the second wave, I think September-December involved decisions that were even worse than most people realised at the time. The modelling and talk of what September measures were baked into the reasonable worst case winter scenario that government departments & institutions used when planning for this period means that all the failure to do circuit breakers, other national measures at various points was even worse than it looked to us at the time. I already knew that they blew their 'following the science' excuse/cover in August and September and left themselves exposed, but the papers I was on about earlier make this lack of cover even more complete. Its no wonder they have subsequently made so much use of the new variant to excuse their failings. I'm sure I'll come back to this point plenty, especially once I can see how the peak in this new variant era ends up comparing to some of the scenarios they modelled months ago, before the new variant was on the radar.
The way the media are covering things now is also months late. There is still always something to play for in future in terms of getting infection levels down, but it does drive me mad that we get the serious focus and sombre stuff only during the period we are told we are into the worst weeks of the pandemic so far. Couldnt we have gone quite a bit earlier with that stuff, when there was more scope to make the peak less high?
The way the media are covering things now is also months late. There is still always something to play for in future in terms of getting infection levels down, but it does drive me mad that we get the serious focus and sombre stuff only during the period we are told we are into the worst weeks of the pandemic so far. Couldnt we have gone quite a bit earlier with that stuff, when there was more scope to make the peak less high?
elbows
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I didnt have the headspace to reply to some aspects of this the other day, but there was a point I should have made at the time.
Unfortunately as far as I remember when I looked into this at one stage during the first wave, using rolling averages of the 'daily deaths by reporting date' was a pretty reasonable indicator of where the 'daily deaths by date of death' figure for the period would eventually end up. Not exact, but in the same realm.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
Did I hear correctly that bubbles are now off the table?
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
More canals than Venice
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Exactly, the curves were very similiar in the first wave, and I see no reason why that'll not be the case this time, especially when you look at the patterns of new cases & hospital admissions, which gives an early indication of deaths to come.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
It seems to continue the theme of "use a telephoto lens to make it look worse than it is" which has been so popular during this pandemic.
I've been there, its not that bad and Street View confirms it.
Honestly the media in this fucking country is a joke.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
According to Hancock during the Downing Street press conference today.
So, expect that to totally change in the next few days.
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
It reads like the cops posted the photo first? Not that "media doesn't fact-check police" is any better than the photo-lens trick... in fact they're typically two sides of the same coin
magneze
🎧
The opposite. It was bad reporting.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Its also not a canal, its a decorative ditch.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Isn't that largely because of the shape of the curve in the first wave, which saw a fairly even and steady increase. The curve for the 2nd wave has been much less tidy to far.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I am sure some Tory MP will see it as a chance to buy a duck-house, and claim it on expenses.
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