Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[cupid_stunt]

 

[Cid]

A majority of the country - but especially Tory voters - agree it's your next door neighbour's fault btw

The fuck is wrong with this place?

 

[gaijingirl]

A majority of the country - but especially Tory voters - agree it's your next door neighbour's fault btw

wtf???!!!

 

[elbows]

It depends what question is asked.

A somewhat different impression emerges when looking at some polls from earlier in January.

 

[muscovyduck]

Is yougov the one where you self-select to do it online?

 

[killer b]

Is yougov the one where you self-select to do it online?

this is all pollsters now, more or less.

 

[cupid_stunt]

For those interested, the Hancock half hour is up & coming.

ETA - Sky says he's been held up.

 

[elbows]

From the bottom of an article that was going on about other stuff:

Meanwhile, the Test and Trace scheme in England has revised one of its definitions of a "close contact" - the people who need to be reached if they have been near to someone who has tested positive for Covid.

The definition now refers to a close contact as anyone who has been within two metres of someone for more than 15 minutes, whether in a single period or cumulatively over the course of one day.
Previously the definition was just a single period of at least 15 minutes.

Covid: UK at 'worst point' of pandemic, says Hancock

Health Secretary Matt Hancock says 2.3 million people in the UK have now had a Covid-19 vaccine dose.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[muscovyduck]

From the bottom of an article that was going on about other stuff:

Covid: UK at 'worst point' of pandemic, says Hancock

Health Secretary Matt Hancock says 2.3 million people in the UK have now had a Covid-19 vaccine dose.

www.bbc.co.uk

I don't even know why my reaction to this is "oh my god" but, oh my god

 

[chilango]

A majority of the country - but especially Tory voters - agree it's your next door neighbour's fault btw

Yep.

I certainly encounter this.

 

[muscovyduck]

I don't even know why my reaction to this is "oh my god" but, oh my god

It's just all tinkering around the edges innit. Or maybe it's cuz instead of coming up with a new rule they have instead basically rearranged the words of an old rule, again, confusing everyone in the process it's exhausting

 

[killer b]

The fuck is wrong with this place?

I guess people's everyday experience of lockdown involves witnessing multiple infractions (or perceived infractions, as no-one is actually totally on top of what the restrictions are or what exemptions there are) - the strategic failures of government are less in your face than your neighbour welcoming round their grown up children, or the three people you walked past in the supermarket with their noses out of their masks.

 

[brogdale]

That daily average...

 

[teuchter]

A majority of the country - but especially Tory voters - agree it's your next door neighbour's fault btw

I was going to say that anyone surprised by this needs to get out more.

But maybe getting out more is not currently the best advice.

 

[Badgers]

Just seen Twat Handcock thanking the feckless Sc*m 'journalist' for their support

 

[andysays]

Coronavirus: Morrisons to ban shoppers who refuse to wear face masks

Morrisons will bar customers who refuse to wear face coverings from its shops amid rising coronavirus infections. From Monday, shoppers who refuse to wear face masks offered by staff will not be allowed inside, unless they are medically exempt. The announcement comes amid concerns that social distancing measures are not being adhered to in supermarkets.

Wonder if other supermarkets will follow this example...

 

[Badgers]

Coronavirus: Morrisons to ban shoppers who refuse to wear face masks



Wonder if other supermarkets will follow this example...

Hopefully. They usually do.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Oh thank god. A mere year into the fucking pandemic a supermarket decides it's going to make the rules actual rules rather than some piss poor hint

 

[elbows]

I am titling todays press conference 'I was born yesterday under a wandering vaccination centre'.

 

[teuchter]

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations

Our vaccination dataset uses the most recent official numbers from governments and health ministries worldwide. Population estimates for per-capita metrics are based on the United Nations World Population Prospects. Income groups are based on the World Bank classification. A full list of our...

ourworldindata.org

 

[andysays]

Oh thank god. A mere year into the fucking pandemic a supermarket decides it's going to make the rules actual rules rather than some piss poor hint

The Covid Code is more what you'd call guidelines than actual rules...

 

[Brainaddict]

A majority of the country - but especially Tory voters - agree it's your next door neighbour's fault btw

That would be a better poll if allowed 'both' as an option, and perhaps an even better one if it allowed people to place the blame on a slider between government and individuals. But still, it is a rather horrifying look into how committed many Tory voters are to placing all blame on individuals.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

So the day after the news was full of those two women getting nicked for driving 5 miles to go for a walk...

Coronavirus: Boris Johnson criticised over bike ride seven miles from home

Boris Johnson was spotted at the Olympic Park on Sunday, despite government advice to "stay local".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[miss direct]

Sorry, I don't get it - as a cyclist, am I not allowed to go for a bike ride on my own?

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Sorry, I don't get it - as a cyclist, am I not allowed to go for a bike ride on my own?

If there's a rule about how far you're allowed to be from home during your exercise, it should be consistently applied.

I appreciate cyclists will usually travel much further than walkers, but they should still rein in their much longer outings during lockdown, IMO.

 

[teuchter]

If there's a rule about how far you're allowed to be from home during your exercise, it should be consistently applied.

I appreciate cyclists will usually travel much further than walkers, but they should still rein in their much longer outings during lockdown, IMO.

There isn't a rule though. Just "local area" which is completely open to interpretation.

If we're going to start enforcing this rule let's start with car drivers.

 

[Cid]

Sorry, I don't get it - as a cyclist, am I not allowed to go for a bike ride on my own?

You are allowed to, it's fine.

Basically if you're going out for exercise, are on your own and not driving/taking public transport to where you exercise it's probably ok.

 

[Espresso]

I think the issue is that if you are driving to a place, then going for a walk or a bike ride; you shouldn't have driven there. Your walk or your cycle should have begun from when you left your own front door.
But it's like everything else - no actual rules just a vague idea that you should be sensible and apply your common sense. Which has not a spectacular success.

 

[andysays]

If there's a rule about how far you're allowed to be from home during your exercise, it should be consistently applied.

I appreciate cyclists will usually travel much further than walkers, but they should still rein in their much longer outings during lockdown, IMO.

That's the problem though, there isn't a clear and coherent rule, as Hancock's comments confirm

Health Secretary Matt Hancock was asked at Monday's Downing Street press conference whether travelling seven miles for a cycle ride was within the rules.
Mr Hancock said: "It is ok to go if you went for a long walk and ended up seven miles from home, that is OK, but you should stay local.
"It is ok to go for a long walk or a cycle ride or to exercise but stay local."

 

[elbows]

Coronavirus: Morrisons to ban shoppers who refuse to wear face masks



Wonder if other supermarkets will follow this example...

Hancock was keen to highlight Morrisons in todays press conference.

He is also not very subtle about using the new variant as an excuse for everything, continuing the trend first seen when he brought the new strain to public attention on December 14th.