maomao
普費斯
It's the chemistry of what happens once it's in your body that has changed so the original mask and distancing rules should be as effective as they were before.
Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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Yes, distance (especially if adhering to 2m) and with mask should still be effective. If you want to be extra cautious while shopping (sorry, I am going to sound as if I am on commission, having mentioned these across three threads now; might be another German slant where their use is being advocated much more, and especially for older people), you could get yourself some actual FFP2 masks.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Go when the shops are quietest, I find Tuesday mornings round 8-9 good
ska invita
back on the other side
i wonder if two of those were the ones who sent letters of no confidence to the 1922 committee?
andysays
Love and solidarity
I was issued with a "key worker" letter back in March, stating that as a housing grounds maintenance worker, my role was essential to enable people to get their daily exercise on green spaces on estates (funnily enough, we've been expected to carry out our work pretty much as normal, including all the stuff which is in no way necessary for that specific reason).
In the early days, I was anticipating the possibility of being transferred or redeployed to other genuinely critical stuff, like waste collection, if staff sickness made that necessary, but it seems like that was never really part of the plan.
I've carried the letter around in the bag I use for work since, though I've never been asked to produce it, or even had anyone ask me what I was doing (wearing a council uniform and driving a council vehicle, it's pretty obvious, TBH).
Earlier today, we were emailed a revised version of the key worker letter intended for use if we had a child who needed to continue at school, my guess is that someone had asked for it, and it was made available for the rest of us in case we needed it too.
elbows
Well-Known Member
I dont know but it sounds like an opportunity to repeat my joke about the 1922 committee being named as such because the previous committee were wiped out by the 1918 pandemic.
I'm sure its all the usual suspects who voted against, such as Ian Paisley:
31m ago 18:52
elbows
Well-Known Member
Because his nanny wasnt a socialist?
Anyway it was a somewhat shrunken bunch of the usual suspects who voted against today:
Conservative: 12
Graham Brady, MP for Altrincham and Sale West
Philip Davies, MP for Shipley
Richard Drax, MP for south Dorset
Karl McCartney, MP for Lincoln
Stephen McPartland, MP for Stevenage
Esther McVey, MP for Tatton
Anne Marie Morris, MP for Newton Abbot
Andrew Rosindell, MP for Romford
Desmond Swayne, MP for New Forest West
Robert Syms, MP for Poole
Charles Walker, MP for Broxbourne
David Warburton, MP for Somerton and Frome
DUP:4
Sammy Wilson, MP for east Antrim
Paul Girvan, MP for south Antrim
Carla Lockhart, MP for Upper Bann
Ian Paisley, MP for north Antrim
35m ago 19:55
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Just the usual massive fuckwits.
I do know all that
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Oh mateMy little boy has to go for blood tests at the hospital tomorrow. He's been repeatedly ill and we've had a hell of a time even getting in touch with doctors. The hospital he's going to is one of the ones pictured on the news with dozens of ambulances queued outside. We're all terrified.
ska invita
back on the other side
yesterday:
Thank the lord for the BBC to give her a platform
I remember reading a study once that had tracked the predictions of economists against their popularity of being booked for TV. It found a complete inverse correlation — the worse the economist was at prediction, the more often they appeared on telly. Boring, middle-of-the-road realistic analysis didn’t attract viewership. Extreme statements, left-field predictions and prophesies either of doom or riches bring in the punters, no matter whether or not they pan out as true.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Economic forecasting is basically just staring at chicken entrails though tbf.
Or just boringly taking the last few years and using that as basically the most likely thing to carry on happening. Nobody’s going to subscribe to THAT newsletter though...
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
maomao
普費斯
:SWrong thread!
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
TBH both are all so bonkers it's easy to get them all mixed up.
My little boy has to go for blood tests at the hospital tomorrow. He's been repeatedly ill and we've had a hell of a time even getting in touch with doctors. The hospital he's going to is one of the ones pictured on the news with dozens of ambulances queued outside. We're all terrified.
Sorry to hear that, I hope everything will be ok.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Where‘s Chope? Did he retire at the last election or something?
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Has there been any age profile given for the recent deaths? I heard an anecdote from a hospital worker that they were seeing more people in their 60s getting bumped off by it this time around. Is that backed by any numbers?
(apologies if this had already been covered, I’m miles behind on this thread and can’t be arsed going through tens of pages!)
(apologies if this had already been covered, I’m miles behind on this thread and can’t be arsed going through tens of pages!)
elbows
Well-Known Member
How recent?
This time around up till a week or two ago no, the data I've seen is similar to the first wave, perhaps even a very slightly smaller proportion in that age group this time. Thats just going by ONS deaths data though, I'd also need to look at hospitalisation data to get a fuller picture and when it comes to age-related detail being publicly shared, there is extra lag. The ONS data I've looked at covers deaths registered up to 25th December, for example.
That doesnt mean individual anecdotes are wrong, just that its not hard for them to end up not being reflective of the overall picture. For example if there are more people in those age groups catching it in the area that hospital serves this time round, compared to the first wave, then someone working there may well notice the difference. Or more of those people may have stayed at home and died of it at home in the first wave than this time around. And whatever other scenarios there are that I havent tried to come up with. Plus as I was just hinting at, if it was a much more recent phenomenon then it might not show up in the data I can see yet.
teqniq
DisMembered
Fuck.
www.hsj.co.uk
Exclusive: London will be overwhelmed by covid in a fortnight says leaked NHS England briefing
London's hospitals are less than two weeks from being overwhelmed by covid even under the 'best' case scenario, according to an official briefing given to the capital's most senior doctors this afternoon.
www.hsj.co.uk
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Thanks, it’s just something that was commented on a lot earlier in the pandemic, but we seem to have less coverage (and less individual stories) now, perhaps because the media has ‘already done that’.
The other thing that could be skewing it a bit younger is that in the first wave they threw care homes under the bus, which would typically have an older age profile than wider society. These will hopefully be better protected now, so not going to be as big a component of the infected population/deaths.
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