Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[cupid_stunt]

Reported new cases have dipped today to 52,618, but deaths are up again to 1,162.

ETA - patients in hospital, on 5th Jan., was 30, 370, the peak in April was 'just' 21,648.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Patients ‘rejecting Pfizer jab to wait for ‘English’ vaccine’

Urgh!

 

[elbows]

Also regarding care homes, the discharge policy contributed to the horror the first time around.

Now the HSJ has an article about health bosses feeling the need to to discharge lots of people to care homes again now, but facing issues doing so:

Exclusive: Treasury ‘the barrier’ as full hospitals desperate to discharge patients to social care

The government is being pressed to urgently pay care homes to take on thousands of patients from hospitals, many of which are on course to be overwhelmed by covid-19 patients.

www.hsj.co.uk

Hospitals, particularly in London and the surrounding areas, are seeing very high and rapidly growing numbers of covid-19 admissions, and are running out of options to free up beds. Multiple senior NHS leaders said they need to discharge more patients to care homes, but that this had become increasingly difficult.

Beds in many care homes are lying empty, but many care providers are refusing to accept residents where there is a risk of introducing covid-19 and fear of repeating the disaster of the spring in the sector.

Part of the problem is some care providers which would otherwise become covid-designated homes say they are not insured for the risk of doing so.

HSJ understands national officials in the NHS and government are now considering options to try to alleviate the problem, amid urgent requests from local NHS leaders, including paying for the additional insurance cost.

However, sources said the Treasury had not yet been willing to foot the bill.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Oh, I didn't know there was a press conference today, the clown is up & coming soon.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Patients ‘rejecting Pfizer jab to wait for ‘English’ vaccine’

Urgh!

Considering the narrow time window for getting that pfizer jab into someone's arm, this kind of fuckery could well mean that a dose goes to waste. I get that people, even complete fucking idiots, are entitled to make decisions about their medical care but when someone is potentially costing someone else a life-saving treatment and for the most idiotic reason imaginable...well it's lucky I'm not a doctor anyway. If I was then these particular patients might find themselves victims of a clerical error that removed them from the priority list altogether.

I only hope this is a very rare occurence.

 

[elbows]

Oh, I didn't know there was a press conference today, the clown is up & coming soon.

They should really do them very often again now we are back in 'lockdown' but last time I heard they were still figuring out what approach to take with that side of things this time. I know that the lockdown has apparently scuppered their previous briefings plan, which were to start the new general number 10 stuff with Allegra Stratton next Monday. But that format is compatible neither with the needs of journalists to socially distance, or the mood and 'trusted experts' stuff required in the middle of a nasty pandemic wave.

 

[Cerv]

Patients ‘rejecting Pfizer jab to wait for ‘English’ vaccine’

Urgh!

christ, put anyone declining the vaccine to the bottom of the list

 

[Espresso]

I think he's got a new speechwriter. "You want to know" and "You need to hear"; not his usual style at all.

 

[Steel Icarus]

battle-preparation techniques

 

[LDC]

I think he's got a new speechwriter. "You want to know" and "You need to hear"; not his usual style at all.

Yeah, I think he's sounding slightly differently too. I think he's been a bit bailed out by having the vaccine 'plan' to push as a get out of the fucking mess we're in option.

 

[elbows]

I think he's got a new speechwriter. "You want to know" and "You need to hear"; not his usual style at all.

I've heard that sort of thing from him a little bit before on a few occasions but it was more pronounced today.

Tosser rizla lab was new though.

 

[miss direct]

The way he says vaccine annoys me. The stress is in the wrong place.

 

[LDC]

Fucking hell, the equivalent of 20 full acute hospitals with new corononavirus patients since Xmas Day!

 

[Steel Icarus]

Fucking hell, the equivalent of 20 full acute hospitals with new corononavirus patients since Xmas Day!

Thank god they they had a total lockdown over Christmas oh wait

 

[teuchter]

Patients ‘rejecting Pfizer jab to wait for ‘English’ vaccine’

Urgh!

The other one should be presented as "the vaccine designed by 'experts' in Remoaner hotspot Oxford"

 

[elbows]

And now a message from the army. Operational excellency, agile plans, arms not shelves. I've been around the world killing people and I've never seen this many spreadsheets before. Efforts have been the equivalent to setting up a chain of sex shops in less than 3 months, and we can take pride in this quest despite attempts by the invisible enemy to cut off lubricants on the supply side.

 

[Leighsw2]

Just a quick question, if anyone knows. Any advice yet, re. the new, more contagious coronavirus variant, regarding the safety of public places, such as shops, transport etc? Is existing guidance (2m spacing plus face masks) still effective? I'm very fortunate indeed that I work from home and live alone, but I guess that leaves shops as my biggest risk factor. How safe are they and what's the best advice re. risk minimisation?

Just a follow-on from this - as I posted in the Brixton coronavirus thread earlier, I was infuriated this afternoon to be in Sainsburys Brixton Hill and see them letting in maskless teenagers with no challenge whatsoever from the burly security guard on the door. No wonder our country is fucked when companies like Sainsburys (taking their lead from the Government) refuse to take any responsibility for doing even the most basic things - like enforce mask wearing - that might make things slightly less risky for their customers and staff. As before, people are simply left to take their chances. Oh, and the traffic on Brixton Hill didn't suggest the 'lockdown' was having any effect whatsoever. There's really no 'plan B' or fallback position should the vaccine programme screw-up is there? Which, judging from everything else that's happened so far in this country since last March, you would absolutely expect!

 

[Artaxerxes]

I wish they'd stop saying "Schools are safe" they clearly aren't fucking safe if the kids have been mostly sent home to prevent virus spread.

 

[Espresso]

Oh good, Hancock is doing Monday's press conference. That means he will reply to every question with "That is a very important question" while he tries to figure out how best not to actually answer it.

 

[elbows]

Johnson lied today by claiming that the vast bulk of the country went into tier 4 on the 19th December.

These areas went into tier 4 when it was announced:

• Kent, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Surrey (excluding Waverley), Gosport, Havant, Portsmouth, Rother and Hastings;
• London (all 32 boroughs and the City of London); and
• the East of England (Bedford, Central Bedford, Milton Keynes, Luton, Peterborough, Hertfordshire, Essex excluding Colchester, Uttlesford and Tendring).

 

[Artaxerxes]

Johnson lied today

He spoke. Yes.

 

[elbows]

He spoke. Yes.

Specific lies are worth pointing out, and they usually try to lie in a vaguer way than he managed with that particular claim.

Simon Stevens was on form today. Especially regarding conspiracy idiots photographing empty corridors.

 

[Leighsw2]

I just think this sort of thing is nutty - an email from this morning - essential service? Even with it being via private appt it's still staff/customers going to and fro - so much unnecessary moving around.
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My wine seller is doing door to door deliveries (nothing face to face) - in the circumstances, I think it is an essential service!

 

[LDC]

Specific lies are worth pointing out, and they usually try to lie in a vaguer way than he managed with that particular claim.

Simon Stevens was on form today. Especially regarding conspiracy idiots photographing empty corridors.

Yeah, he was visibly angry.

 

[Espresso]

Johnson lied today by claiming that the vast bulk of the country went into tier 4 on the 19th December.

These areas went into tier 4 when it was announced:

• Kent, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Surrey (excluding Waverley), Gosport, Havant, Portsmouth, Rother and Hastings;
• London (all 32 boroughs and the City of London); and
• the East of England (Bedford, Central Bedford, Milton Keynes, Luton, Peterborough, Hertfordshire, Essex excluding Colchester, Uttlesford and Tendring).

No one can be surprised that Johnson thinks that England begins and ends with London.
All the rest of us don't count. Here be dragons.

 

[elbows]

No one can be surprised that Johnson thinks that England begins and ends with London.
All the rest of us don't count. Here be dragons.

Yes thats one of the reasons I singled out this lie.

Perhaps he was refering to the part of the country where the apples dont fall far from the cunt tree. Perhaps he will shortly announce tier 5 restrictions for the historic cunty of kunt and immediate surrounds.

 

[weepiper]

Scotland is apparently well over halfway through giving all care home residents and staff their first dose of the vaccine and NHS Borders has just tweeted this

 

[frogwoman]

I'm going to the dentist next week to discuss getting a tooth out and I'm actually really looking forward to it.

 

[hegley]

Scotland is apparently well over halfway through giving all care home residents and staff their first dose of the vaccine and NHS Borders has just tweeted this

Delays for second ones though - friend who is a GP in West Lothian had first one before Xmas has just been told his second one is postponed because of supply issues.

 

[Sunray]

Don't know if anyone saw this, but it's getting a bit scary.

Dire warning that London hospitals could be overwhelmed by Covid

Senior doctors told that sheer numbers falling ill with Covid could leave capital without beds for thousands

www.theguardian.com

Might be obvious to some, but if you live in London: Do not get sick, of anything.