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nyxx said:
how would a curfew help?

I’m pretty nocturnal by nature plus the shops I can get to are all way too busy for my liking until late - after midnight if they’re 24hr.
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Keep kids off the street & stop people driving to visit others in the evening. I see groups of teens hanging out in the park like nothing is happening. groups of ten + with no masks.
I doubt it is their plans but if by a miracle it is, you could always go shopping at 6am. ;)
 
MrSki said:
Keep kids off the street & stop people driving to visit others in the evening. I see groups of teens hanging out in the park like nothing is happening. groups of ten + with no masks.
I doubt it is their plans but if by a miracle it is, you could always go shopping at 6am. ;)
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The police are able to break up such gatherings under current restrictions. They won't start doing it just because there's a curfew.
 
MrSki said:
Keep kids off the street & stop people driving to visit others in the evening. I see groups of teens hanging out in the park like nothing is happening. groups of ten + with no masks.
I doubt it is their plans but if by a miracle it is, you could always go shopping at 6am. ;)
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I could not go shopping at 6am, fuck off telling me how I could live my life you utter plank.
 
maomao said:
The police are able to break up such gatherings under current restrictions. They won't start doing it just because there's a curfew.
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True but it might stop the gatherings in the first place. If the parents are liable to a fine then they might make sure little Jonny is home by 8.
 
MrSki said:
Keep kids off the street & stop people driving to visit others in the evening. I see groups of teens hanging out in the park like nothing is happening. groups of ten + with no masks.
I doubt it is their plans but if by a miracle it is, you could always go shopping at 6am. ;)
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Ok, thanks for the clarification, I thought there might be some sensible , epidemiologically relevant reasoning for this curfew idea.
 
bimble said:
I’m assuming end of March, as per Jeremy hunt. Johnson just halved it because he can’t help himself.
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TBH, I think anyone predicting how long this will go on, when things might get back to any sort of normality is just pulling dates out of their arse.

It would be far more sensible not to attempt to make that sort of prediction, IMO, and if asked by the media to refuse and explain why the question is unhelpful.
 
nyxx said:
Ok, thanks for the clarification, I thought there might be some sensible , epidemiologically relevant reasoning for this curfew idea.
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So closing schools to stop kids mixing but allowing them to mix outside is a good idea?
 
MrSki said:
So closing schools to stop kids mixing but allowing them to mix outside is a good idea?
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They're already not allowed to mix. Introducing a curfew or more rules doesn't mean they'll be effectively enforced.

As said, it would also jjust compress the time people are able to go to the shops, exercise, whatever. Stop people working late strolling through the park on the way home or me popping round to the corner shop at 20:30.

And if those kids are hanging around outside in near freezing tempratures, makes you wonder what it's like at home. Forcing them to stay in 24/7 might not be all that good for lots of other reasons.

TBH I've given up giving a fuck what other peple are doing, what all that traffic's about etc. No point. They'll either be fine and carry on, find out one of their nearest and dearest is seriously ill and maybe change their behaviour or perhaps they're out because they really need to be. Nothing I can do about any of that, waste of mental energy anyway.
 
maomao said:
I'm assuming the press conference tonight is because they want to excuse/manage the fucking shocking death figure that's going to come out in a couple of hours.
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Shocking overall UK hospital figures are due any day now too, because the nations other than England have had long gaps in their data over Christmas and then again over new year, meaning that the last UK figure for number of people in hospitals is currently dated December 28th.

Aside from the usual brief moments of explaining when a days death figures are in part due to weekend catchup, they have tended to be more likely to use the high death numbers to encourage compliance with the restrictions rather than attempt to downplay such numbers. Although they are at their most slippery when it comes to death rates when making international comparisons, which is one of the reasons we may have ended up with 'deaths within 28 days of a positive test' in the first place, they were jealous of other countries in europe looking better on paper for stretches of the summer.
 
andysays said:
TBH, I think anyone predicting how long this will go on, when things might get back to any sort of normality is just pulling dates out of their arse.

It would be far more sensible not to attempt to make that sort of prediction, IMO, and if asked by the media to refuse and explain why the question is unhelpful.
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Well, yeah. I did kind of just mean in my own brain, i'm using 'end of march' (which is what hunt tweeted yesterday as the timeframe for vaccine rollout to have protected the most vulnerable) as a time to look forward to, as if i might be able to invite people round, or go and see my parents etc. Not going to start booking restaurants for 7 or anything but need a date in mind as something to hold onto tbh, and that seems a less stupid focal point than Johnson's middle of feb.
 
bimble said:
Well, yeah. I did kind of just mean in my own brain, i'm using 'end of march' (which is what hunt tweeted yesterday as the timeframe for vaccine rollout to have protected the most vulnerable) as a time to look forward to, as if i might be able to invite people round, or go and see my parents etc. Not going to start booking restaurants for 7 or anything but need a date in mind as something to hold onto tbh, and that seems a less stupid focal point than Johnson's middle of feb.
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I'm just looking forward to good enough weather that the kids can play in the garden for an hour or two. Might be a few weeks but at least the Tories can't fuck it up.
 
Cid said:
App has pinged change in alert level to national lockdown on my phone.
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Holy shit I just checked my app... the tier info is about two weeks out of date :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :eek::eek:

ETA nevermind it just updated... but the fact it waited for me to manually open it and give it a minute to update says it all really
 
cupid_stunt said:
Oh, FFS, yet another record of reported new cases - 60,916.

Plus 830 new deaths reported. :(
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The UK hospitalisation figures I mentioned earlier still arent there as although they have now added a lot of recent figures for Northern Ireland, they have yet to do so with figures from Scotland and Wales. However I have pieced together most of this missing data using the relevant sources, and believe that the figure for 4th January will end up showing over 30,000 Covid-19 cases in UK hospitals on that date.
 
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