ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Given the Telegraph's crap content, it really should be free.
Corbyn & Cabinet in the Media
- Thread starter ska invita
- Start date
Given the Telegraph's crap content, it really should be free.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
We tried that with are Scottish replacements the only problem being a southern regiment most people could just about understand them as long as they didnt get excited
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Oh what does this sound like?
WOW. Before the "Bernie Bro," Clinton supporters created the "Obama boy." No, seriously.
WOW. Before the "Bernie Bro," Clinton supporters created the "Obama boy." No, seriously.
youngian
Well-Known Member
And tiresomely cliched already. Even Progress MPs can no longer be arsed to complain about Momentum being the new Militant because they aren't.
gosub
~#
A post in the wrong thread?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
he's pointing out the comparisons with the attempts to call corbyn a massive sexist and the embarrasing 'vote for me just because I am a woman' tactic yvette coopers team played
Oh no, it has been so long since I was in the Labour Party that I had forgotten about Progress. I used to hate that propaganda group with a deep loathing and now am confronted with its continued existence. This on the same day that Andy Burnham is wittering about keeping Trident makes me wonder if even with Corbyn there is any hope for the Labour Party.
youngian
Well-Known Member
I don't see Corbyn (or any opposition leader) being able to frame a serious debate about Trident above the waffle of domestic political expediency ('we're tough, Corbyn wears sandals'). I doubt if Andy Burnham and many Labour MPs have any strong views about Trident renewal but have decided the issue isn't worth a bucket of spit. If the public want to spunk god knows how many billions on shiny toys to make them feel better than yield to it is the Labour pro-Trident line in private.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
It isn't working, but they keep repeating it. This time it's Tom Blenkinsop, another non-entity. "Proscribe Momentum", he squeals. Jeez, they really want to turn Labour into a zombie party, don't they? Most parties would give their eye teeth - so to speak - for a membership surge but not this lot. Yet they'd happily welcome a Tory defector into their ranks than take anyone who's vaguely socialist.
coley
Well-Known Member
Fair point, but on another thread, is "Trident a viable military commitment" worth the left exploring that avenue?
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Jack Straw to be 'denied knighthood and peerage' under Jeremy Corbyn
Boo fucking hoo. My heart bleeds.
Boo fucking hoo. My heart bleeds.
It would have been a disgrace if he had been given a knighthood and peerage. But he is just the sort of unscrupulous Blue Labour lackey that usually gets such rewards.
cantsin
Well-Known Member
it would be good to see Corbyn stick to this / not get bullied by the f*ckwits....the way a HoC committee "cleared " Straw + Rifkind of their blatant cash 4 questions farce was embrassing, Corbyn doing himself no harm quietly standing up to it / him .
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
This latest absolutely horrific poll which has us more than ten points behind where bloody Miliband was at this stage.
New poll for IndyOnSunday/Sunday Mirror
Con 41% (+1)
Lab 27% (-2)
LD 9% (+2)
UKIP 15% (-1)
Green 3% (NC)
SNP 5% (+1)
Other 1% (NC)
The independent on Sunday also has Corbyn's favourability equal with fucking Gove on -29.
Whose fault will the Corbynistas make it?
A) the media
B) the public
C) those that disagree with Corbyn
D) the pollster
E) all the above
It will not be Corbyn or the Corbynistas. There will be personal abuse rather than honest reflection.
Meanwhile the day when those in the Labour Party are the only ones that vote Labour gets closer. We are fast becoming a party that isn't even a credible party of opposition, let alone a party of government.
New poll for IndyOnSunday/Sunday Mirror
Con 41% (+1)
Lab 27% (-2)
LD 9% (+2)
UKIP 15% (-1)
Green 3% (NC)
SNP 5% (+1)
Other 1% (NC)
The independent on Sunday also has Corbyn's favourability equal with fucking Gove on -29.
Whose fault will the Corbynistas make it?
A) the media
B) the public
C) those that disagree with Corbyn
D) the pollster
E) all the above
It will not be Corbyn or the Corbynistas. There will be personal abuse rather than honest reflection.
Meanwhile the day when those in the Labour Party are the only ones that vote Labour gets closer. We are fast becoming a party that isn't even a credible party of opposition, let alone a party of government.
The Octagon
Stop...Hammertime
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
I wouldn't worry - your concept of a credible party of opposition that stands for what the Government stands for (pro-war, pro-privatization, pro-PFI, pro-TTIP, pro appearing anti-immigrant, pro-Trident, pro-EU etc) is an absurd notion anyway.
Meanwhile there is, as I've been saying, no check on the Tories. They know we can't win with Corbyn and those that really need a labour government - and I've listed our achievements before - suffer under the Tories.
Hunt can destroy the nhs, because apparently there is no difference.
And the metropolitan elite sleep soundly because they're pure.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
And how's that Corbyn's fault? It was your mates who lost the election, meaning that the tories can do what they fucking want.
"Don't worry" they say. And they mean it. They mean that they don't see a difference between the labour government and the coalition.
No, I shut up because of the demands for unity from the left backing miliband. And I shouldn't have.
Now the Tories have no credible opposition they're not worried about being unpopular. Heavens, they're falling apart, on the verge of a split, and Corbyn has them stretching their lead.
And you don't think it has anything to do with Corbyn?
Exactly as I said "it won't be Corbyn's fault".
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
no party with you as a member can claim to be credible
So there is a difference now?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
perhaps you should shut up on the basis that you'te a right wing shit with the political nous of sir jimmy savile's gravestone
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Labour weren't a credible opposition before Corbyn - even worse they were going along with a lot of the tory policies.
Tories had decided they were going to privatize the nhs before even they won the election against *your* labour.
At least with Corbyn there's someone objecting to creeping privatization - your lot have joined in enthusiastically. Very little difference in *your* labour or conservatives as far as privatizing goes.
[/quote]Exactly as I said "it won't be Corbyn's fault".[/QUOTE]
Well no, tories destroying the nhs isn't Corbyn's fault. You're a liar if you say it is.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Haha no because, as I said, it was *your* labour that lost the fucking election.
The Octagon
Stop...Hammertime
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
What "check on the Tories" are you proposing, though? Mandleson getting that EU Commissioner job instead of Patten?
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
(I don't really no why I'm bothering but) what the fuck. Are you living in a parallel universe? Over the last few weeks we've had a number of supposedly Eurosceptic ministers fall back and either support in IN campaign or say that they basically intend to stand aside of the campaign.
The idea that they are on the verge of a split is mad, who are these possible splitters?
Similar threads
- Poll
