J Ed
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That does seem like a huge story, the fact that they are posting that that is what they did on their little blog shows that they are content to flout the objectivity they are supposed to adhere to with impunity.
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That does seem like a huge story, the fact that they are posting that that is what they did on their little blog shows that they are content to flout the objectivity they are supposed to adhere to with impunity.
gosub
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sacked for delivering a scoop.... Wouldn't be on the dole long.
It isn't delivering a scoop though, it's creating one, and creating one in a transparently partisan manner. Why do you think they removed the blog post so quickly if it's just about bagging a story?
It's disgraceful. Kuennsberg and Neil at the very least should walk for it.
It's disgraceful. Kuennsberg and Neil at the very least should walk for it.
J Ed
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It still comes up on google's ''in the news' if you search bbc resignation on google.
TheHoodedClaw
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How was it created? He was going to resign anyway. Journalist gets story, it breaks on live tv. News at 11.
gosub
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Might have gone earlier, reducing the drama. But yep.
brogdale
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Doughty (who he?) comes out of this looking like an even bigger prick that he did already.
gosub
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A man who starts his day telling the Beeb's political editor he's considering his position,and 'gets talked into' resigning live on air 10 mins before PMQ's, was never really thinking about damage limitation.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Exactly; a prick.
He goes a bit frothy at times, but Hitchens lands some excellent punches in this.
Letting Rip Against all This Reshuffle Garbage - Mail Online - Peter Hitchens blog
This in particular:
The timing of the Syria debate, in retrospect, looks rather suspicious. There was no special military or diplomatic reason, as is quite obvious now, for holding it that night. The only reason for hurry was the Oldham poll. There was nothing else on the grid that couldn’t be altered. A humiliation for |Mr Corbyn on Wednesday night at Westminster and another one on Thursday night in Oldham Town Hall, and the brave boys of New Labour would have acted
Letting Rip Against all This Reshuffle Garbage - Mail Online - Peter Hitchens blog
This in particular:
The timing of the Syria debate, in retrospect, looks rather suspicious. There was no special military or diplomatic reason, as is quite obvious now, for holding it that night. The only reason for hurry was the Oldham poll. There was nothing else on the grid that couldn’t be altered. A humiliation for |Mr Corbyn on Wednesday night at Westminster and another one on Thursday night in Oldham Town Hall, and the brave boys of New Labour would have acted
Just read that and almost all of it was excellent IMO.
Normally, I'd hate Hitchens and his usual insane obnsessions/rants. But he's spot on with loads of that.
The Mail's still generally shit though
Normally, I'd hate Hitchens and his usual insane obnsessions/rants. But he's spot on with loads of that.
The Mail's still generally shit though
Thing is, he wasn't in that piece. Call me surprised 
J Ed
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So this Why I won’t shut up about misogyny and the left | Jess Phillips could go here, the right-wing political correctness thread or the Graunid going down the pan thread...
Both?
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
Couldn't agree more with this point about the Syria debate; it was bullshit political theatre par excellence. The Commons voted to bomb ISIS in Iraq in December 2014 with barely a mention in the news and hardly a debate in the Commons. Suddenly the "bombing of Syria" is equivalent to the invasion of Iraq - day-long debate in the Commons, breathless saturation real-time media coverage, pompous windbaggery by the bucket load in the chamber etc etc.
Over whether or not the RAF could bomb the other side of what is - quite literally - a line in the sand in the middle of a desert, a line not recognised by ISIS and barely by anyone else these days. And as if the RAF could achieve something that the USAF, which has been merrily bombing both sides of the line for years, could not; I mean it's laughable. And as we now know, the supposed unique assets of the RAF - Brimstone missiles - haven't even been used. The RAF is militarily irrelevant here.
FWIW, I think Corbyn got mugged by it all. He could have acknowledged the irrelevance of the entire "policy" and agreed to nod it through which would have spiked Cameron's guns and wrong footed the media. Then bung in a last-minute amendment that if the "long term political settlement" (that Cameron and the other bullshit-mongers always claim they are seeking) hadn't been achieved within - say 6 months - (eg via a unanimous UNSC resolution) then all UK forces should be permanently pulled out. It's the sort of stunt that Milliband pulled when he won his Syria vote (I can't remember the exact details of his amendment). Corbyn would have had a sporting chance of winning that vote and it would have left Cameron with a ticking time bomb of a commons-mandated withdrawal if no political settlement. Instead Cameron and the wankers have a free hand and Corbyn got shot up by the Blairites.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
More on the latest BBC disinfo. If theyd done this to tories we'd now be facing weeks of front lages calling for resignations.
The BBC turns News at 10 into a party political broadcast for the Tories | The Canary
In regards to Hitchens remarks on the Syria vote, the timing motivation is obvious - it was a kneejerk reaction to the Paris massacre. Vapid and ill considered, but not conspiratorial.
The BBC turns News at 10 into a party political broadcast for the Tories | The Canary
In regards to Hitchens remarks on the Syria vote, the timing motivation is obvious - it was a kneejerk reaction to the Paris massacre. Vapid and ill considered, but not conspiratorial.
taffboy gwyrdd
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gosub
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It was because our ally France,asked for help, yes. But the pomposity of the debate, where 8 tornado's were going to be game-changer,
. And the timing of the debate, squeezing it in ahead of the bi election was definitely a factor, ill thought through given the demographics of the constituency.
gosub
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Think they had been looking for a justification to revisit the issue for a year.
nino_savatte
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The BBC attempts to defend its position on the Doughty (who?) on-air resignation and ends up digging a bigger hole for itself.
BBC defends Stephen Doughty's resignation live on Daily Politics
BBC defends Stephen Doughty's resignation live on Daily Politics
Doughty's truly an idiot -- this is one of his tweets quoted in the above link
Strawmanmeister Doughty said:
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Yes it was, because everthing is. Little more to it than that. Hitchens imllies the timing of the debate was to do with the by election. I dont think theres enough to stand that up, but if it was then it was not made public and thus organised in a clandestine fashion. Ergo, a conspiracy, conspiracies being an absolute staple of politics throughout time.
Who said it was organised? It's not exactly something that needs a conspiracy. It'll have been obvious to the tories what would happen if they Held the debate the night before the Oldham poll - no whispering in corners required.
Not that I'd be surprised if it had been co-ordinated, mind. But it isn't necessary.
Not that I'd be surprised if it had been co-ordinated, mind. But it isn't necessary.
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