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Caught Chukka on the Today programme just talking about Corbyn supporters in local parties. BBC hack characterised them as, inter alia, anti-American, soft on IRA, not a peep about domestic policy.
 
Caught Chukka on the Today programme just talking about Corbyn supporters in local parties. BBC hack characterised them as, inter alia, anti-American, soft on IRA, not a peep about domestic policy.


And no doubt Mr Umunna didn't contradict the interviewer at all? :hmm:

No surprise at all if not.
 
They had the bully and sex pest, John Reid, in the Today Programme studio this morning and rather predictably, Montagu asked him a Corbyn-related question towards the end of the 'interview'. Who gives a shit what he thinks? He's yesterday's man. He's also done rather well for himself since leaving the Commons and taking a seat in the Lords. He heads up a think-tank at UCL and sits on the boards of a few 'security' firms.
 
Unless Corbyn grows a main stream political brain he is going down the pan. Power, even for good use is not gained by naive tactics and dreams .
 
How is 12-15% dead, one (out of line) poll hardly indicates a collapse. They've probably lost a % or
or two but they are not dead by any means.

Well they've certainly lost there spot as media darlings even if polls still there, all behaving themselves fairly well, enough to keep Soviet Corbyn.stories in the limelight
 
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A "secret bid" to oust Mr Corbyn is splashed across the Times's front page. It says senior figures within the party have sought legal advice on how to unseat the leader, with lawyers suggesting that in the event of a leadership challenge he could be "removed and denied a place on the ballot paper" by MPs.

pure shit stirring
 
Looking at the polls over time it seems that the election of Corbyn has had no impact whatsoever on peoples' voting intentions. No-one gives a shit about what the papers harp on about, and why would they? People vote according to how they feel about their day-to-day experiences; Corbyn can't do anything about that. The real test for Labour will come when the next recession bites, and voters begin to question whether Osborne is really as economically competent as he pretends to be.

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Looking at the polls over time it seems that the election of Corbyn has had no impact whatsoever on peoples' voting intentions. No-one gives a shit about what the papers harp on about, and why would they? People vote according to how they feel about their day-to-day experiences; Corbyn can't do anything about that. The real test for Labour will come when the next recession bites, and voters begin to question whether Osborne is really as economically competent as he pretends to be.

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the graph on UK PollingReport doesnt paint that picture at all UK Polling Report
then again im confused by their graph as the poll breakdown below shows it to be neck and neck

Survey End Date CON (%) LAB (%) LD (%) UKIP (%) Grn (%) Con Lead
Survation/Mirror 2015-05-05 33 34 9 16 4 -1
YouGov/Sun 2015-05-04 33 33 10 12 5 0
YouGov/Sun 2015-05-03 34 33 9 12 5 1
Ashcroft/ 2015-05-03 32 30 11 12 7 2
Populus/ 2015-05-03 34 34 10 13 5 0
YouGov/Sunday Times 2015-05-02 34 33 8 13 5 1
Survation/Mail on Sunday 2015-05-02 31 34 8 17 4 -3
Survation/Mirror 2015-05-01 33 34 9 16 3 -1
YouGov/Sun 2015-05-01 33 34 8 14 5 -1
 
the graph on UK PollingReport doesnt paint that picture at all UK Polling Report
then again im confused by their graph as the poll breakdown below shows it to be neck and neck

Survey End Date CON (%) LAB (%) LD (%) UKIP (%) Grn (%) Con Lead
Survation/Mirror 2015-05-05 33 34 9 16 4 -1
YouGov/Sun 2015-05-04 33 33 10 12 5 0
YouGov/Sun 2015-05-03 34 33 9 12 5 1
Ashcroft/ 2015-05-03 32 30 11 12 7 2
Populus/ 2015-05-03 34 34 10 13 5 0
YouGov/Sunday Times 2015-05-02 34 33 8 13 5 1
Survation/Mail on Sunday 2015-05-02 31 34 8 17 4 -3
Survation/Mirror 2015-05-01 33 34 9 16 3 -1
YouGov/Sun 2015-05-01 33 34 8 14 5 -1
Look at the dates on those polls. The the longterm graph hasn't been undated since the election.


Labour’s bitter internal row over whether to vote for airstrikes against Isis in Syria deepened on Saturday as MPs in favour of military action accused Jeremy Corbynof trying to bypass his shadow cabinet by appealing to grassroots supporters for their views.
Yes how dare ordinary members dictate policy, that should be for the PLP.
 
Why, what did he say?

If you think he is running the party well and is control, then fine he doesn't have to say anything.
If he is not running the party well and his track record up to now is not stellar; has he got the time or political skill to carry out his programme?
 
If you think he is running the party well and is control, then fine he doesn't have to say anything.
If he is not running the party well and his track record up to now is not stellar; has he got the time or political skill to carry out his programme?

Or alternatively, the present situation illustrates how unfit the Labour party currently is for representing the political interests of anyone but the privileged twats of the PLP, their mates in the London media and the collection of dodgy millionaires who fund their careers and cocaine habits.
 
This (by Jonathan Freedland, Saturday Guardian :mad: ) is far worse than the above IMO :hmm:

It is what could be expected from the craven Atlanticist. What is interesting is where he talks about how Corbynism will be stopped - helpfully exposing the wedge issues that the establishment will try to use to divide the coalition of young and older activists.
 
the graph on UK PollingReport doesnt paint that picture at all UK Polling Report
then again im confused by their graph as the poll breakdown below shows it to be neck and neck

Survey End Date CON (%) LAB (%) LD (%) UKIP (%) Grn (%) Con Lead
Survation/Mirror 2015-05-05 33 34 9 16 4 -1
YouGov/Sun 2015-05-04 33 33 10 12 5 0
YouGov/Sun 2015-05-03 34 33 9 12 5 1
Ashcroft/ 2015-05-03 32 30 11 12 7 2
Populus/ 2015-05-03 34 34 10 13 5 0
YouGov/Sunday Times 2015-05-02 34 33 8 13 5 1
Survation/Mail on Sunday 2015-05-02 31 34 8 17 4 -3
Survation/Mirror 2015-05-01 33 34 9 16 3 -1
YouGov/Sun 2015-05-01 33 34 8 14 5 -1
As pointed out, that is pre-election data. Since Corbyn has become leader both parties have stayed roughly the same on average (tory slightly up, labour down by 1%). But there is an 8-9% gap between them. If they were neck and neck this soon after an election that labour had so decisively lost Corbyn would be being called a miracle worker not a disaster.
 
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the graph on UK PollingReport doesnt paint that picture at all UK Polling Report
then again im confused by their graph as the poll breakdown below shows it to be neck and neck

Survey End Date CON (%) LAB (%) LD (%) UKIP (%) Grn (%) Con Lead
Survation/Mirror 2015-05-05 33 34 9 16 4 -1
YouGov/Sun 2015-05-04 33 33 10 12 5 0
YouGov/Sun 2015-05-03 34 33 9 12 5 1
Ashcroft/ 2015-05-03 32 30 11 12 7 2
Populus/ 2015-05-03 34 34 10 13 5 0
YouGov/Sunday Times 2015-05-02 34 33 8 13 5 1
Survation/Mail on Sunday 2015-05-02 31 34 8 17 4 -3
Survation/Mirror 2015-05-01 33 34 9 16 3 -1
YouGov/Sun 2015-05-01 33 34 8 14 5 -1

Survey End DateCON (%)LAB (%)LD (%)UKIP (%)Grn (%)Con Lead
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17 Nov 41 34 7 7 Con +7
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17 Nov 37 30 6 16 Con +7
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15 Nov 39 33 7 12 Con +6
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11 Nov 36 30 7 15 Con +6
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27 Oct 37 31 6 15 Con +6
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25 Oct 38 33 8 10 Con +5
IM_logo.jpg
19 Oct 36 32 10 12 Con +4
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16 Oct 37 32 5 15 Con +5
CR_logo.jpg
15 Oct 42 29 7 13 Con +13
I_icon.jpg
11 Oct 38 34 7 11 Con +4
YG_logo.jpg
30 Sep 37 31 7 17 Con +6
CR_logo.jpg
28 Sep 39 30 9 12 Con +9
IM_logo.jpg
23 Sep 39 34 9 7 Con +5
YG_logo.jpg
18 Sep 39 31 6 16 Con +8
OP_logo.jpg
18 Sep 37 32 6 14 Con +5
CR_logo.jpg
17 Sep 42 30 7 13 Con +12
I_icon.jpg
13 Sep 38 32 8 13 Con +6
 
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