Coffee drinkers are destroying the planet.

[farmerbarleymow]

Dont be daft you can't wrap turnip round honeycomb and if that's hard try moulding it round a curly wurly.

If you cook the turnip and puree it it'd work well. Much better for you too.

 

[Raheem]

Beef is doomed

Seems pretty clear that, given the choice between the survival humans and the survival of cattle, a lot of humans back the walking burgers.

 

[CNT36]

But you don't eat 16 steaks a day.

Neithers perfect but taking (from google) uk average figures of co2 equivalent per kilo as above, cups per day, coffee per cup and average weekly beef purchase beef has the higher emissions. 96 grams of beef per week emits more than 140 grams of coffee.

 

[Raheem]

96 grams of beef per week emits more than 140 grams of coffee.

That's a lot of coffee.

 

[xenon]

Posting shite on the Internet must come quite high as a complete waste of electricity, hence carbon emissions.

 

[xenon]

start with one social media free day a week. You know to cut down.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Neithers perfect but taking (from google) uk average figures of co2 equivalent per kilo as above, cups per day, coffee per cup and average weekly beef purchase beef has the higher emissions. 96 grams of beef per week emits more than 140 grams of coffee.

But how does coffee compare to bacon?

 

[CNT36]

Posting shite on the Internet must come quite high as a complete waste of electricity, hence carbon emissions.

Yeah, but like so much else it could be a shit ton less. We do need a thread dealing with this stuff that doesn't get turned into a lot of people with fixed positions getting sucked in to arguments about individual choices. It's very easy to get sucked in though.

 

[8ball]

So much whataboutery from fragile beanists…

 

[CNT36]

But how does coffee compare to bacon?

I need a better chart/screen but closer if you're using the whole pig.

 

[xenon]

Yeah, but like so much else it could be a shit ton less. We do need a thread dealing with this stuff that doesn't get turned into a lot of people with fixed positions getting sucked in to arguments about individual choices. It's very easy to get sucked in though.

I know, I’m only having fun. Individual choices do play a part. so far as signalling, influencing market choices. but coordinated systemic change, big top-down stuff is also required. Probably more important.

 

[xenon]

anyway I think a few days off from social media, not posting or reading. Hang around at bus stops, parks. speak your brains. Scribble on walls with a shar twig, a naturally fallen twig obviously.

 

[Saul Goodman]

I know, I’m only having fun. Individual choices do play a part. so far as signalling, influencing market choices. but coordinated systemic change, big top-down stuff is also required. Probably more important.

It'll be a grind, with lots of frothing. I'm sure we'll see plenty of it in the press.

 

[Aladdin]

Don't get me wrong, I love chocolate, but its environmental and social impact shouldn't be ignored.

If they get rid of all the cattle there wont be any chocolate

 

[Maggot]

But how does coffee compare to bacon?

According to this calculator. Having coffee once a day emits 155kg of greenhouse gases. Whereas having bacon once a day emits 656Kg, over 4 times as much.

Climate change food calculator: What's your diet's carbon footprint?

Check the environmental impact of what you eat and drink.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Saul Goodman]

According to this calculator. Having coffee once a day emits 155kg of greenhouse gases. Whereas having bacon once a day emits 656Kg, over 4 times as much.

Climate change food calculator: What's your diet's carbon footprint?

Check the environmental impact of what you eat and drink.

www.bbc.co.uk

Yeah, but most people have coffee more than once a day. Some people have it 16 times a day. Whereas most people don't eat bacon every day.

 

[Artaxerxes]

All of my sins are in the bottom half. Phew.

I thought nuts were really bad? Almonds etc? As and the really shit trade around Cashews.

The problem with many foods isn't carbon per se its the footprint and conditions otherwise used in producing them - Coffee and Chocolate is built on slavery and poor conditions, Almonds use an absolute shit ton of water and the almond monocultures in California and other areas are causing massive issues, Soy is used as an animal feed and its one of Brazil's biggest growing exports and is driving the deforestation of the Amazon.

 

[Serene]

Coffee-free Friday by itself isn’t going to save the planet.

#cancelcoffee

Im not going half an hour without Coffee.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I dont ever go to Coffee shops, but if I did I would have five or six at home before I went in to save money. Maybe even sneak a flask in.

Drink water instead - much better for you, and essentially free.

 

[MickiQ]

Beef is doomed

Cows as individuals definitely, as a species I'm sure they will be around for a while yet.

 

[poppy60]

I am guilty of eating meat,dairy produce and drinking coffee.don't drink much so that is my one redeeming brownie point.

 

[Pickman's model]

I am guilty of eating meat,dairy produce and drinking coffee.don't drink much so that is my one redeeming brownie point.

do you eat many brownies?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Coffee consumption is resulting in millions of acres of deforestation, with a carbon footprint worse than most meats, and it has zero nutritional value. There's also the slavery aspect, which alone should be reason enough not to drink it, yet our coffee consumption is still increasing.
Given the above, will you do the right thing and give up coffee?

I know you posted this thread in jest, but a lot of the problem with coffee growing isn't the coffee itself, but rather the variety. Some varieties thrive in the shade of a forest, others need full sun. For a long time, the shade varieties were in commercial use. Now, the commercial growers have switched to full sun varieties, leading to more deforestation.

BTW, I willingly gave up meat, but you'll have to pry my coffee out of my cold, dead hands.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I know you posted this thread in jest, but a lot of the problem with coffee growing isn't the coffee itself, but rather the variety. Some varieties thrive in the shade of a forest, others need full sun. For a long time, the shade varieties were in commercial use. Now, the commercial growers have switched to full sun varieties, leading to more deforestation.

BTW, I willingly gave up meat, but you'll have to pry my coffee out of my cold, dead hands.

We should ban coffee to protect the forests. You could have a lovely cup of tea instead - its a much nicer drink.

Britain, protecting the forests since at least 1615.

 

[8ball]

We should ban coffee to protect the forests. You could have a lovely cup of tea instead - its a much nicer drink.

Britain, protecting the forests since at least 1615.

Well, no, not really. Coffee was huge in the UK for about a hundred years until about the late 18th Century iirc, when trends changed and caused a decline in consumption in favour of tea.

 

[pogofish]

Britain, protecting the forests since at least 1615.

What about the firewood needed to boil the water for making beer - the true national drink across the history of much of the British Isles..?

Then there were the laws preserving forests as a national strategic resource, building warships/shoring trenches and the like. Which persisted until surprisingly recently. Even our forests have blood on their hands, never mind the environmental impact of all those gunpowder charges and cannonballs..!

 

[RedRedRose]

I came across this startling infographic

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I came across this startling infographic

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So those who have milk in their coffee are basically ecological vandals.

 

[8ball]

I came across this startling infographic

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So that’s what Dan Quayle is up to these days.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Well, no, not really. Coffee was huge in the UK for about a hundred years until about the late 18th Century iirc, when trends changed and caused a decline in consumption in favour of tea.

That period was a temporary aberration but luckily people came to their senses and remembered that tea is much nicer.