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I've always had a soft spot for the Lancia Monte Carlo, but have never been brave enough to want to own one. They seem a bit fragile and that Lancia rust thing is just way too off putting. Another car that seems to have just dissapeared off the road. Shame really. :(
 
Roadkill said:
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The roadgoing 205 Turbo 16s (now that's a car I'd love to have a go in!) only had about 200bhp but they got nigh-on 600 out of the engine in full rally trim.

Road going T16 is as fast as a standard 1.9 - mainly down to turbo lag and the heavier 4wd engine and alos iron block.

Like you say the works EVO1 and 2 are monsters.

This is mine

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Roadkill said:
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The roadgoing 205 Turbo 16s (now that's a car I'd love to have a go in!) only had about 200bhp but they got nigh-on 600 out of the engine in full rally trim.

Road going T16 is as fast as a standard 1.9 - mainly down to turbo lag and the heavier 4wd running gear. The engine is also an iron block.

Like you say the works EVO1 and 2 are monsters.

This is mine

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GarfieldLeChat said:
it bimmin well was read up on Simca the aronde models and who supplied the designs all though out the 1000 series... which looked like ...

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later used for the lada, yugo, unicar and others ... and also the later 100 series ...

also might want to look at where the arbath series of fiats came from and who did them up for them ;) :D

I didn't know about the Simca connection. That's interesting, and it does look at a glance as if the Peugeot 104, which later morphed into the Samba and Citroen LNA, was based on a Simca design.

I'm not sure about the Fiat connection though. According to wikipedia, Simca were making their own designs from the early 50s and the association with Fiat seems to have come to an end in 1970, a few years before the 127 came out.
 
I'm Simes said:
Road going T16 is as fast as a standard 1.9 - mainly down to turbo lag and the heavier 4wd engine and alos iron block.

Plus, the engines was mounted transversely, right in the middle of the car. Hence the rally cars' habit of pivoting around the line of the crankshaft when jumping if the driver adjusted the throttle setting. If the driver lifted off as the car was airborne, down went the nose. There were some awful accidents as a result, not least Ari Vatanen's near-fatal crash in Argentina in 1985...

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There's a lot of cars on the road purporting to be one of these, but mostly, they're not...

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If I find the right one for the right money, I'd be tempted.
 
Yeah, I'd love a 2002 as well. Not sure what the chances of getting one any more are...

There's a lovely silver Evo II on that link... but it's sold. No surprises there. Good ones are getting hard to come by.

I should have bought the '88 Evo II I was offered a few years ago. It was absolutely mint, decent mileage, well looked after. I could have afforded it as well, but at the time I didn't fancy it. Stupid boy. :(

I do own an E30... but it's a poor lil 316 and it's not in the best condition after its year standing...
 
I'm Simes said:
I've found a good compromise between the two, as an owner of a car with an engine from a bigger model - the sleeper look is the way forward.

www.m2bmw.com/rhd.htm

Thought it had a proper S14 engine in (SR20DET) for a moment, then realised it would be making better figures than that ;)

Nice kit tho, to be fair.

Surely those who hanker after an original 2002 or M3 wouldn't say no to an E9 (3.0CSi, or even better CSL)? :cool:

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ICB said:
Thought it had a proper S14 engine in (SR20DET) for a moment, then realised it would be making better figures than that ;)

Nice kit tho, to be fair.

Surely those who hanker after an original 2002 or M3 wouldn't say no to an E9 (3.0CSi, or even better CSL)? :cool:

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A guy i know has a Datsun 120y with the SR20DET in it :eek:

Those E9s are lovely...one of BMWs best efforts I reckon.
 
Certainly wouldn't say no to an E9. I haven't looked, but I'd imagine they're even more difficult to come by than an E30 M3 or a 2002...
 
CSL's are very unreliable...most of 'em are either museum pieces, working historic racers, or have been thrashed to death and sueful only for original bits of trim and panels.

A friend of my uncles had the block go on his 3.0 CSI and was told the best chanxe he had of replacing it with the same spec engine would be hunt round breaker's yards in Germany. Apparently, loads of owners dumped the 3.5 in later in life, so an original 3.0 is pretty rare.
 
g force said:
CSL's are very unreliable...most of 'em are either museum pieces, working historic racers, or have been thrashed to death and sueful only for original bits of trim and panels.

A friend of my uncles had the block go on his 3.0 CSI and was told the best chanxe he had of replacing it with the same spec engine would be hunt round breaker's yards in Germany. Apparently, loads of owners dumped the 3.5 in later in life, so an original 3.0 is pretty rare.

Drop a jap lump in, or small block Chevy ;)

Poi E said:
A guy i know has a Datsun 120y with the SR20DET in it :eek:

Those E9s are lovely...one of BMWs best efforts I reckon.

:D

Here's one with the CA18DET (as in my car), running a 12.3 apparently

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This page is splendid
 
g force said:
CSL's are very unreliable...most of 'em are either museum pieces, working historic racers, or have been thrashed to death and sueful only for original bits of trim and panels.

A friend of my uncles had the block go on his 3.0 CSI and was told the best chanxe he had of replacing it with the same spec engine would be hunt round breaker's yards in Germany. Apparently, loads of owners dumped the 3.5 in later in life, so an original 3.0 is pretty rare.

A friend had one for about 4 years, looked after it and it virtually never broke down.

And it had the original 3.0 lump.

Didn't drive anything like as well as an E30 M3, though. Ultimate Driving Machine and all that...
 
I used to have one of these until oxdisation eat her away :(
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1.6 Twin Cam, Head skimmed (too low, had to make a copper head gasket) and ported, bored and lined and new pistons/rings/valves, Piper cams, 4 branch into 1 custom exhaust, webber twin 40's, comp clutch, custom skirt kit (made from 1.6mm steel :eek: ), bag of cement and big toolbox in the boot.
T'was as fast as fooook! but in the wet she was a beast to handle.

I'd certainly drive another on a daily basis if I could get one rot free, cause you just cant break the mechanics no matter how much abuse you gave them.
(ok, I did snap a rear anti roll bar through my driving abuse) :oops:
 
cybertect said:
My very first car was a blue 1969 Minor van - though it had an Austin badge on the front instead of a Morris one. Paid £400 for it in 1989.

The stock suspension is unsurprisingly agricultural and bone-shaking compared with the saloon and Traveller versions. Never a speed king - it topped out at around 50 mph with the van-oriented gearbox IIRC (although there are ways to remedy this if you have the right equipment under the bonnet ;))

My dad used to have a Traveller into which he'd dropped a 1.6 Marina engine and a 5-speed Sierra (?) gearbox with uprated suspension and brakes - that cruised quite happily at 80 and surprised BMWs and Porsches on the motorway :D

i have a feelign that with some 10 years of minor experience it'll be the quickest and smoothest minor van once i have it... I have plans but say it quitely have to sneak it slowly past the misses !!
 
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