There should be an inquiry into the media's role in the Iraq war too. About half the population opposed the war, but if I recall correctly only The Mirror had an openly anti-war stance. Someone should start a petition or something.
Chilcot Iraq Enquiry.
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There should be an inquiry into the media's role in the Iraq war too. About half the population opposed the war, but if I recall correctly only The Mirror had an openly anti-war stance. Someone should start a petition or something.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
The sad thing was without iraq Blair could have been seen as a pretty good PM even afghan might not have been as big as fuck up as it was .
His place in history is assured as that pm who got the country involved in a pointless small war in iraq and made everything worse in the middle east .
His place in history is assured as that pm who got the country involved in a pointless small war in iraq and made everything worse in the middle east .
are you talking as vun toting mike from spaced
oras a realist
blair is and was a bloodthirsty war monger
he even used mussolinis phrase about paying the bloood sacrifice
have you srrved in the armed forces
or are you another wannabe like blajir amd mike from spacef
spell check
on my phone
can anyone find a photo of blair chilcot and the predator
put tony blair on predator photo like seperated at birth on private eye
then put the predator ob tb photo
this wud bee funnee
cannot do it from phone
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Polls show it was about 30% against the war, of course spiking sharply against war after we did go to war and everything went to.shit and people.got buyers remorse.
Of course polls are reliable as we've seen this year...
Lurdan
old wave
Indeed, if it hadn't been for Iraq he would be remembered as the man who made Thatcherism respectable.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
He's a khaki-clad blue skies imagineer and no mistakeMy brother posted this extract. WTF?
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Unfortunately Alan Al Qaeda and Maurice Militia had different ideas
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
if looks could kill...
And yet ironically...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
I feel a sense of anti-climax partly because I'm fatigued by the whole sorry story already. 'Iraq War' the news story dragged on for so long in the 00s it wore the public and journalists out.
My only surprise is the conclusion that the dossier wasn't 'sexed up.' If there were no weapons surely it was all speculation hyperbole ?
My only surprise is the conclusion that the dossier wasn't 'sexed up.' If there were no weapons surely it was all speculation hyperbole ?
mauvais
on reddit or something
It's like Robocop as described by Nicola Murray.My brother posted this extract. WTF?
Raheem
Well-Known Member
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It's more complicated than that. Here is some polling from shortly before the invasion.
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/today_uk_import/YG-Archives-Ira-dTel-AttWIraq-030219.pdf
It shows that people seem to have fallen for the govt line to a certain extent, and only a minority were implacably opposed to the war. But, at the same time, 51% said they were broadly in agreement with anti-war protesters and only 18% thought war would be justified without a second UN resolution.
It's more complicated than that. Here is some polling from shortly before the invasion.
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/today_uk_import/YG-Archives-Ira-dTel-AttWIraq-030219.pdf
It shows that people seem to have fallen for the govt line to a certain extent, and only a minority were implacably opposed to the war. But, at the same time, 51% said they were broadly in agreement with anti-war protesters and only 18% thought war would be justified without a second UN resolution.
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not-bono-ever
meh
Its real. This is someone who has the power to send young men into the field to kill people. fucking hell
19force8
For the avoidance of faith
Will you please stop saying that.
What the inquiry shows is that Blair didn't just fail to interrogate the intelligence with due diligence, he deliberately misrepresented it in pursuit of a preplanned, illegal commitment to bring about regime change by invading Iraq.
Idris2002
Stay Alive in '25
You know, it's the old glass box at the—
At the gas station,
Where you're using those little things
Trying to pick up the prize,
And you can't find it.
It's—
And it's all these arms are going down in there,
And so you keep dropping it
And picking it up again and moving it,
But—
Some of you are probably too young to remember those—
Those glass boxes,
But—
But they used to have them
At all the gas stations
When I was a kid.
mauvais
on reddit or something
The whole military and defence industry is full of this stuff. For every bomb dropped on a school or grunt sent off in a Land Rover to be blown up, there's three bureaucrats with awkward Powerpoints trying to play less at soldiers and more at graphic design/big data/leveraging synergies.
Ok I will. Still reading it.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Haven't you heard, he failed a blood test. That's what moved Blair into the medals.letting Kissenger off you liberal
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
In terms of winning in 97 he was pushing at an open door, but yes, in the language of conventional politics he was very successful. 'Dominant politician of his generation' as they probably say. Hard to pin down, ever flexible, substituted chats for decisions, combined with a massive sense of entitlement - all things that made him a (genuinely) successful neo-liberal politician, but are also at the heart of this report. Trouble is he can't escape from that mode and still played the politician as the corpses piled up, right through to yesterday.
In terms of rationalising 'evil' that they have done, humans seem to have an infinite ability to stick to a line of self justification that avoids facing up to the consequences of actions. Blair takes that to the limit, but doesn't seem to have paid a psychological price for that internalised doublespeak. That's why I have a feeling that discussion of psychopathic or sociopathic traits is close to the mark.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
Well I was wandering around cyprus with an SA80 ( technically a rifle just not a cery good one) and a uniform and even got a medal for apprantly being in scud range. Or it could just have been a very drunken game of paintball that got completly out of hand
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Well I was wandering around cyprus with an SA80 ( technically a rifle just not a cery good one) and a uniform and even got a medal for apprantly being in scud range. Or it could just have been a very drunken game of paintball that got completly out of hand
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