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Apologies for the Mail link, but there was a very good article by Stephen Glover today questioning his mental health, and that many people ignored what he did and said because he seemed like such a decent chap. He also reminds us of this gem, from the Labour Party conference of October 2001:
Thanks, that is a surprisingly good read. The 'with you whatever' does lend itself to a psychological reading of events, whilst the whole thing is also the bizarre political endpoint of New Labour. In similar mode I keep getting flashes of Bauman on the holocaust (that it was an act of modernity, driven by processes, bureaucracy and 'logics')
 
I'm not sure, technically, whether standing against a Labour candidate is still a reason to expel someone when they have already been expelled? But .... he did, not only stood against, but actually won a seat against Labour, twice.
If I remember correctly the official reason for his expulsion was congratulating Michael Lavalette on his victory in Preston. Meaning that while still a Labour MP he congratulated a member of another party on their victory over Labour. Not a bad reason for expulsion as it goes and I'm pretty sure it still stands.
 
If I remember correctly the official reason for his expulsion was congratulating Michael Lavalette on his victory in Preston. Meaning that while still a Labour MP he congratulated a member of another party on their victory over Labour. Not a bad reason for expulsion as it goes and I'm pretty sure it still stands.
If it doesn't I am sure other reasons to keep him in the outer darkness will be found
 
Given the location of his property portfolio, I bet he supported Portugal against Wales last night.
 
whens the moment GG lost even the tiniest shred of credibility for you? anyone? I think the defining moment was when he redefined the concept of consent to support assange that was the moment when I didn't even want to see him win against labour. Never win anything.

But he's been up to a lot of shit, much of it before I started watchin the bastards, lets dig out the galloway dirt.
 
whens the moment GG lost even the tiniest shred of credibility for you? anyone? I think the defining moment was when he redefined the concept of consent to support assange that was the moment when I didn't even want to see him win against labour. Never win anything.

But he's been up to a lot of shit, much of it before I started watchin the bastards, lets dig out the galloway dirt.

Playing kittens with Countess Rula Lenska.
 
George does provide top quality rant ok you cant trust him further than you can throw him but point at the enemy and watch him destroy them:D
George doing PMQ's would have sjw types ranting about rape he'd destroy May or the stepford tory:D.
He absoultly mullered the yanks when they called him before them:rolleyes::D.

" if theres one thing thing to do if you dont want to be humilated and made a complete fool of you dont stick a microphone and camera if front of george" I bet various spooks were sitting down with pop corn to watch that disaster :cool:
 
Is it true that Blair has asked the families of dead soldiers to put themselves in his shoes?
he asked everyone that. More than once, in varying forms. The man is an expert dissembler. A lot of 'I had a decision to make. You don't know the burdens of power. Look. What would you have done'

beeb voices after near uncritically loved that bit about the lonliness of power. Great men must make great decisions. And when they are the wrong ones, they still get to be great. Clean for the queen
 
whens the moment GG lost even the tiniest shred of credibility for you? anyone? I think the defining moment was when he redefined the concept of consent to support assange that was the moment when I didn't even want to see him win against labour. Never win anything.

But he's been up to a lot of shit, much of it before I started watchin the bastards, lets dig out the galloway dirt.

Going to watch this in a full hazmat suit because it is Galloway ..........but what he will come up with will be uncomfortable viewing for Blair ...and Galloway would relish a court case to shut him up or claim slander ....

popcorn time
 
he asked everyone that. More than once, in varying forms. The man is an expert dissembler.
He's not just an expert dissembler, he's a professional confabulator, he believes his own lies. He converted to Catholicism ffs. Who does that apart from Ann Widdicombe, John Wayne and Fanny Allen? Delusional fuckwits.
 
He's not just an expert dissembler, he's a professional confabulator, he believes his own lies. He converted to Catholicism ffs. Who does that apart from Ann Widdicombe, John Wayne and Fanny Allen? Delusional fuckwits.
he was always a secret recusant but catholics can't be prime minister, an office which evolved from the Queens First Minister. Or kings. And the monarch really can't be catholic. So niether can the first minister so he lied*

*this may or may not be true. Think of it as a QI fact.
 
he was always a secret recusant but catholics can't be prime minister, an office which evolved from the Queens First Minister. Or kings. And the monarch really can't be catholic. So niether can the first minister so he lied*

*this may or may not be true. Think of it as a QI fact.

Converted in 2007 after 30 years as a closet left footer apparently.
 
he asked everyone that. More than once, in varying forms. The man is an expert dissembler. A lot of 'I had a decision to make. You don't know the burdens of power. Look. What would you have done'

beeb voices after near uncritically loved that bit about the lonliness of power. Great men must make great decisions. And when they are the wrong ones, they still get to be great. Clean for the queen
A major criticism was he didn't use collective responsibility. And if he had things might have been different. The man's an arse.
 
A major criticism was he didn't use collective responsibility. And if he had things might have been different. The man's an arse.
you mean didn't say 'look at everyone else who backed me'? 'I was a bit player in a wider current of history'?

it'sd be a nuremburg defence but his massive ego wouldn't allow it imho
 
you mean didn't say 'look at everyone else who backed me'? 'I was a bit player in a wider current of history'?

it'sd be a nuremburg defence but his massive ego wouldn't allow it imho

no, more it was sofa government rather than chaired cabinet meetings
 
he was always a secret recusant but catholics can't be prime minister, an office which evolved from the Queens First Minister. Or kings. And the monarch really can't be catholic. So niether can the first minister so he lied*

*this may or may not be true. Think of it as a QI fact.

This is so he can go to confession and consider himself free from his sins. It's probably the only way he can sleep at night and look in a mirror the deluded murdering swine.
 
he was always a secret recusant but catholics can't be prime minister, an office which evolved from the Queens First Minister. Or kings. And the monarch really can't be catholic. So niether can the first minister so he lied*

*this may or may not be true. Think of it as a QI fact.
If we're going all QI, the monarch is the head of the Church of England which, although reformed, is catholic.

Which means I really need to get out more.
 
I've had the last paragraph of that speech stuck in my head for days now, hadn't twigged it was blair. Great rhetoric, even if he did use his powers for evil. You forget how impressive he was in his pomp.

Edit: this bit sorry. Not quite the last paragraph.

This is a moment to seize. The Kaleidoscope has been shaken. The pieces are in flux. Soon they will settle again. Before they do, let us re-order this world around us.
 
whens the moment GG lost even the tiniest shred of credibility for you? anyone? I think the defining moment was when he redefined the concept of consent to support assange that was the moment when I didn't even want to see him win against labour. Never win anything.

But he's been up to a lot of shit, much of it before I started watchin the bastards, lets dig out the galloway dirt.
Being an old git I've had the luxury of disliking him since his war on want days in the 80s ('financial irregularities'). As a labour mp just had him down as a self interested gobshite, but managed to up the ante throughout his gruesome positioning in respect, that horrible mix of embracing religious conservatism whilst ensuring that a whole movement was in orbit around him. The Saddam stuff, Tariq Azis and all that, proper sick making, well, actually fucking monstrous. The big man fawning round a proper Big Man. A couple of vile election campaigns since then, rape apologism. Fucking hell - 'whens the moment GG lost even the tiniest shred of credibility for you? - that's a really hard question!

Suppose for me, I just detest the 'charismatic' and in his case it happens to be combined with the worst kind of opportunism.
 
Reading the report summary its really all about him, his fervour to sign up 'no matter what'. I'm quite surprised by that. I thought criticisms would be getting apportioned far and wide. Its mostly him, a history text that makes him look like a ... i don't know what to call him tbh.
 
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