Change UK: Chuka Umunna resigns from Labour party and launches Independent Group

[Gerry1time]

There's very little in it for the LibDems except half a dozen deadbeats in seats they're unlikely to keep past the next GE, they've nothing else to offer, no activists or party membership or even money. Why would the LibDems who are currently clearly on a roll want to be associated with these losers?

Exactly, especially when the activist base (which in the Lib Dems has way more official power than in most other parties) was so against the coalition in 2010 but got told to STFU, but was then proven entirely correct. I can’t see them now allowing another opportunity for ‘you’re in bed with the tories / labour’ accusations by taking these defectors on.

 

[strung out]

We must be able to get at least a top 5 chuk fuck ups:

'people with a tinge'
Euro candidate abandoning them for the libs mid-election (my personal fave)
'It's in your hands... lift your hands up... look it's in your hands'
Some monumental fuck up with Euro leaflets?
A new name every fortnight
All the rats in a sack deciding to get into different sacks today

When they changed their Twitter handle and their old one got taken by Brexiters

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Some monumental fuck up with Euro leaflets?

do you mean

Change UK spent more than £1,300 on ads saying they wanted to ‘remain in the UK’

(story here)

or was there another monumental fuck up?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

channel 4 news bit on it.

Krishnan Guru-Murthy managed to get through it without laughing

Cathy Newman didn't

 

[Badgers]

 

[moochedit]

Genuine or spoof?

 

[moochedit]

Is it time to merge this thread with the "lib dems are shit" thread?

 

[killer b]

Oh come on.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Genuine or spoof?

i really can't tell any more...

 

[likesfish]

the Cuks could still change the face of uk politics but I could win the Euromillions and frankly my euromillions win is probably the better bet

 

[Jeff Robinson]

 

[agricola]

If anyone was wondering why they spent all that money on Facebook...

 

[PR1Berske]

This thread should now perhaps have its title updated to "Defecting MPs found, and split, Change UK within six months."

 

[Proper Tidy]

This bit is amazing. They really expected to be exactly like the LibDems without being the LibDems and suddenly become the third party in England.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Wonder why voters, faced with two parties on the ballot with identical positions, chose the more established credible option, did not expect this

 

[moochedit]

i really can't tell any more...

Nope nor can i

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Apologies for the second tweet, but this one is hilarious.

Gapes gave Chucka that spurned lover treatment lmao.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I fear that Tingers looking to become LD's are going to be in for a struggle: the LD's are a pretty 'local' bunch, the constituancy parties have a lot of clout over selection of candidates - which is why they have so many oddballs.

Joining now isn't a problem, but being selected as the LD candidate for X constituency in 2022 or whenever is by no means guaranteed - the local party may not like the sitting ex-Labour/Tory MP, and may have their own candidate.

Woollaston for example started the referendum campaign as a brexiteer, she fell out with Gove/Johnson when they wouldn't allocate her GP surgery a slice of the £350m (which shows how bright she is) and suddenly become a fervent remainer.

I've no idea if she'd want to stay with Totnes, but in 2017 - as a Tory - she had a 10,000 majority over the Labour candidate, and twenty thousand more than the then LD candidate... Its also a leave voting constituency.

I wouldn't be so sure, they built themselves in the first place by persuading any independents going to join them. Reckon they'd take them, especially in places like Totnes were LD's won't win anyway. Course, then they'll likely lose anyway.

 

[PR1Berske]

"Next on BBC Four and featuring strong language from the start, David Oyelowo stars as Chuka Umanna in "Chucked It All Away", the story of 2019's here-today, gone-tomorrow political experiment..."

 

[Gerry1time]

This bit's great, as it shows;

- They don't understand that an impression isn't when someone saw something, it's just when it appeared on a page. Not sure what it is now, but it used to be that an impression was the content appearing on a page for at least one second. Many suppliers didn't even subscribe to that basic requirement. Impressions basically mean nothing.

- Likewise they don't understand engagements, given videos can be set to autoplay when scrolling past.

- They also don't get how ad clicks are often click bombs, where a thumb on a mobile screen accidentally clicks on an ad when scrolling down.

- I'm suspicious that they don't understand the difference between 1 million people and something happening 1 million times too. Were the clicks and engagements uniques?

I wonder who did their social media, and how much they laughed on the way to the bank.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

had over 5.8 million engagements (including shares, video views, comments, likes)

what proportion were comments along the lines of "fuck off" or shares with comments like "what a bunch of twunts", though?

 

[Wilf]

This bit is amazing. They really expected to be exactly like the LibDems without being the LibDems and suddenly become the third party in England.

Given the media's loathing of Corbyn and the 3 year lord of the flies going on in the tory party, it's reasonable to say the chuks had a fair wind behind them (in the world of politics at least, if not the world of humans). Since then...

 

[Pickman's model]

Given the media's loathing of Corbyn and the 3 year lord of the flies going on in the tory party, it's reasonable to say the chuks had a fair wind behind them (in the world of politics at least, if not the world of humans). Since then...

The wind turned out to be a fart

 

[Pickman's model]

what proportion were comments along the lines of "fuck off" or shares with comments like "what a bunch of twunts", though?

96.3%

 

[andysays]

Oh come on.

...lads..?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

96.3%

Yeah, my thumbs were worn down to a nubbin.

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh come on.

Come on come on
Come on come on
Come on come on
Antifa hooligans

 

[SpookyFrank]

If anyone was wondering why they spent all that money on Facebook...

Gives further weight to my theory that politics has become a job for those too mediocre to make it in corporate middle management.

 

[SpookyFrank]

This bit is amazing. They really expected to be exactly like the LibDems without being the LibDems and suddenly become the third party in England.

They've been utterly delusional since day one.

 

[Artaxerxes]

This bit is amazing. They really expected to be exactly like the LibDems without being the LibDems and suddenly become the third party in England.

They leaked early plans to crush the Lib Dems, mostly by ???? methods.

Change UK plan to grab the Lib Dems’ money, members and policies – leaked memo