Change UK: Chuka Umunna resigns from Labour party and launches Independent Group

[Wookey]

You make it sound like such a small thing. But the fact that a phrase like that bubbles up in her mind really should be a cause for concern.

Bullying, intimidation, racism and rank anti-Semitism in the Opposition party, and you select one previously unheard of MP's clumsy wording to focus on. Something she's already apologised for and which clouds the far greater cause for concern that is the 7 resignations today and the reasons behind them. That is a weird prioritisation to me.

 

[danny la rouge]

If she'd said it yesterday it would have been held up as another example of racist Labour under racist Corbyn.

Let's hope the Independent Group take it seriously.

 

[maomao]

Yes. In the post where you apologised for racism.

Tbf he never apologised for it. He denied and excused it.

 

[danny la rouge]

Bullying, intimidation, racism and rank anti-Semitism in the Opposition party,

Something we've devoted pages and pages to. And it's hardly unwarranted to expect the people who wanted the spotlight today because they say Labour is racist to, you know, not be racist.

 

[butchersapron]

Tbf he never apologised for it. He denied and excused it.

Apologism means defence of. Not saying sorry for.

 

[Wookey]

I'd imagine that being described as 'funny tinged' is probably even more offensive than being called 'coloured.'

That doesn't answer the question I asked at all. I asked where did she say coloured? Rutita1 said the MP had said funny tinged and coloured, and that was an exaggeration unworthy of her. You are repeating it.

I don't know which is more offensive, funny tinged or coloured, what a bizarre thing to contemplate.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Bullying, intimidation, racism and rank anti-Semitism in the Opposition party, and you select one previously unheard of MP's clumsy wording to focus on. Something she's already apologised for and which clouds the far greater cause for concern that is the 7 resignations today and the reasons behind them. That is a weird prioritisation to me.

Have you ever referred to anyone as being a 'funny tinge'? Have you ever even thought that?

What makes White people an 'unfunny tinge' do you reckon?

 

[butchersapron]

This is quite superb though. Couldn't be going better.

 

[danny la rouge]

Tbf he never apologised for it. He denied and excused it.

Fair point. I was looking for a way to appropriately conjugate "apologism", but gave up.

 

[Wookey]

Tinge is another word for colour or hue ffs Wookey. Stop this nonsense. It's fucking insulting.

You're insulting me, and please stop trying to make me be quiet, that's out of order.

 

[Treacle Toes]

That doesn't answer the question I asked at all. I asked where did she say coloured? Rutita1 said the MP had said funny tinged and coloured, and that was an exaggeration unworthy of her. You are repeating it.

I don't know which is more offensive, funny tinged or coloured, what a bizarre thing to contemplate.

No, it's not an exaggeration. She was referring to the colour of people's skin. Tinge is another way of saying colour or hue. Non White people are funny coloured to her.

 

[danny la rouge]

I don't know which is more offensive, funny tinged or coloured

Really? You don't think the word "funny" is a clue?

 

[Riklet]

Glad this cunt is out, and any anyone who utters even a word of support for him needs kicking out, too.

Utter self-interested neoliberal scum.

 

[Treacle Toes]

You're insulting me, and please stop trying to make me be quiet, that's out of order.

I'm one of those funny tinged people your mate Angela was referring to. But of course though I am insulting you for disliking what she said, calling her out on it and pointing out your apologism is insulting to me. Cos i'm the one being out of order, of course.

 

[butchersapron]

Glad this cunt is out, and any anyone who utters even a word of support for him needs kicking out, too.

Utter self-interested neoliberal scum.

Chuka or wookey?

 

[Pickman's model]

Chuka or wookey?

Why the binary?

 

[Shechemite]

Berger and Ummuna flapping on Channel 4

 

[rekil]

by the end of the week it will be:

 

[danny la rouge]

Berger and Ummuna flapping on Channel 4

Good. What about in particular?

 

[Shechemite]

Good. What about in particular?

Everything. Asked what they are for, where they are going to stand etc. Bit rabbit in headlights

 

[danny la rouge]

Everything. Asked what they are for, where they are going to stand etc. Bit rabbit in headlights

Fantastic.

 

[Wookey]

I'm one of those funny tinged people your mate Angela was referring to. But of course though I am insulting you for disliking what she said, calling her out on it and pointing out your apologism is insulting to me. Cos i'm the one being out of order, of course.

She's not my mate, she never gets a fucking round in, are you serious?!

She's a white working-class English person from Yorkshire. Without being regionalist and judgmental, by which I mean I'm going to be regionalist and judgmental, I'm pretty sure she's seven shades of racist. But if she knows that, and keeps it safely between her own two ears and nowhere else, then it's fuck all to do with me. I certainly think today there are bigger targets to be mad at than this MP.

And to be clear, you insulted me by saying I was an apologist for racism, and for telling me to shut up. It was nothing to do with dear Ange. My mate.

 

[Sue]

Everything. Asked what they are for, where they are going to stand etc. Bit rabbit in headlights

#beprepared.

 

[Pickman's model]

She's not my mate, she never gets a fucking round in, are you serious?!

She's a white working-class English person from Yorkshire. Without being regionalist and judgmental, by which I mean I'm going to be regionalist and judgmental, I'm pretty sure she's seven shades of racist. But if she knows that, and keeps it safely between her own two ears and nowhere else, then it's fuck all to do with me. I certainly think today there are bigger targets to be mad at than this MP.

And to be clear, you insulted me by saying I was an apologist for racism, and for telling me to shut up. It was nothing to do with dear Ange. My mate.

Weren't you saying how she wasn't racist before? You sad sack of shit

 

[butchersapron]

So Smith's case was that the labour party is racist not just against black people but also against people with funny tinges. And her new group won't be racist against people with funny tinges. In fact, they oppose racism against people with funny tinges. Gotcha.

 

[Shechemite]

#beprepared.

For this thread?

 

[Pickman's model]

For this thread?

For anything

 

[Treacle Toes]

She's not my mate, she never gets a fucking round in, are you serious?!

She's a white working-class English person from Yorkshire. Without being regionalist and judgmental, by which I mean I'm going to be regionalist and judgmental, I'm pretty sure she's seven shades of racist. But if she knows that, and keeps it safely between her own two ears and nowhere else, then it's fuck all to do with me. I certainly think today there are bigger targets to be mad at than this MP.

And to be clear, you insulted me by saying I was an apologist for racism, and for telling me to shut up. It was nothing to do with dear Ange. My mate.

You insulted me more than once by making half arsed apologies/excuses for what she said.Trying to wookey-splain what she actually meant, that I should be more angry at other people etc. as if me commenting on this today means I don't care about anything else. That is what apologism is, offering a defence of something. It's fucking insulting of you to do that.

You haven't answered any of my questions about what kind of person uses expressions like she did, you can't offer one valid explanation for why a person would even think that way.

Instead now, it's not your business after you have repeatedly tired to excuse it. Yet I am insulting you and trying to shut you up yeah?

 

[butchersapron]

Weren't you saying how she wasn't racist before? You sad sack of shit

+now there are millions of others who are 7 shades of racist. The lessons keep on coming.

 

[Shechemite]

And to be clear, you insulted me by saying I was an apologist for racism, and for telling me to shut up.

Politics is nasty these days