Change UK: Chuka Umunna resigns from Labour party and launches Independent Group

[Libertad]

You're so vain, I bet you think this thing is about you. Clowns and Ann Coffey, clowns and Ann Coffey

Veh veh good.

 

[Pickman's model]

So - a bunch of utter lightweights. Will the skeletons in the closet (which obviously it's best not to mention directly) of at least one of them come out in the near future?

that isn't a closet, it's a wardrobe and it stretches from here to narnia

 

[butchersapron]

So - a bunch of utter lightweights. Will the skeletons in the closet (which obviously it's best not to mention directly) of at least one of them come out in the near future?

Well, whatever it is he's obv pretty sure that he's squared it or he wouldn't be doing this.

 

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What’s so left wing about Corbyn’s mob anyway?

Left wing enough to provoke a tireless campaign of sabotage, endless vilification in the press and countless futile attempts to ‘reclaim the party’ by the likes of these dreary, beige nonentities who finally fucked off today.

By the standards of the past it’s fairly slight, but still enough of a leftward tilt to cause aneuyrisms in Guardian columnists and media types across the land.

 

[brogdale]

...and in one phrase, encapsulates and justifies the complaints of the Brave 7.

Or...in your own words...back-stabbers

 

[Shechemite]

Left wing enough to provoke a tireless campaign of sabotage, endless vilification in the press and countless futile attempts to ‘reclaim the party’ by the likes of these dreary, beige nonentities who finally fucked off today.

By the standards of the past it’s fairly slight, but still enough of a leftward tilt to cause aneuyrisms in Guardian columnists and media types across the land.

Oh great.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I had forgotten the details about the formation of the SDP, apparently it happened about 2 months after the original declaration of values.

The first formal step in the creation of the SDP was — just like this morning — not the launch of a party. It was the issuing of a declaration of values and a Council for Social Democracy with a small group of MPs attached to it.

It gathered momentum very quickly. The initial group was flooded with so many letters and offers of help that it could hardly cope. Within less than two months the party had been launched. And eventually the small number in parliament grew until it had 29 MPs. Thousands joined (I was one of them), many of whom had never belonged to another party before.
The hard lessons to be learnt from the SDP split from Labour

 

[DotCommunist]

I see the Brave 7 have been given endorsement by Katie Hopkins.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Poor sods.

 

[drachir]

Chuka Umunna is bald

 

[Lord Camomile]

I think it's an infiltration that hasn't been properly challenged by the leadership, and is worst on social media.

I don't know in detail how bad the problem is, as regards racism and anti-Semitism, partly of course because I'm a white anti-theist and I'm not in the Party. But I know that if a gay person that I respected said an organisation was institutionally homophobic, I would assume that to be the case unless and until it was proven otherwise.

That isn't the weight of evidence required in a criminal court of law, it's not even-handed or dispassionate. I'm aware of that. But we have a Holocaust within living memory that acts as a permanent warning signal of how quickly we can lose our shit as a society, so I don't need to see compelling evidence with my own eyes, because secondary reportage from the affected group is more than enough for me. Should be more than enough for anybody.

Yup, it's pre-emptive self-protection that I recognise in this, and share. Jews and gay people didn't stand in exactly the same queues in the concentration camps, but our deaths were the same. And there is an imaginary bell in my head, and when someone rings that bell with conviction and reason, as these people have, and Berger has been doing for a long time now, and lots of Jewish people have now been ringing a while, then I have to fucking listen, even though I'm not Jewish and so not a direct target of this...yet.

Sorry, failed to respond after you took the time to.

Fair enough. Certainly, I always try to lend more weight to the voices of those affected, so I get that. I just... claiming the party is institutionally racist/anti-Semitic (as opposed to members of the party), it feels like that should have some evidence to come along with it. But, then, again, that's placing the burden of proof on the victim.

Fuck it, what do I know, this is really not my territory.

 

[Pickman's model]

Chuka Umunna is bald

your powers of observation are keen indeed

 

[Shechemite]

A bald statement.

 

[tonysingh]

#notallslapheads

 

[JimW]

Chuka Umunna is bald

And now his fight over the comb begins!

 

[TopCat]

i don't like chuka or the rest but i don't think i could wish being backed by blair on anyone

Just being in the room with physcotic Blair would be unnerving.

 

[andysays]

the magnificent seven

I was just thinking it's a shame none of them are called Blake...

 

[TopCat]

I'm surprised Onasanya didn't apply for day release to pitch up with them.

Very good.

 

[DotCommunist]

I was just thinking it's a shame none of them are called Blake...

more Shed Seven than Blake's

 

[Lord Camomile]

I don't really go in for the whole "damned due to those who support/praise you" stuff, but this probably wasn't the endorsement they were after...

 

[Shechemite]

Just being in the room with physcotic Blair would be unnerving.

Physcotic?

 

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[TopCat]

What's the gossip some of you are alluding to? PM me?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

These veteran anti-racists who can't stand the racism of the Labour Party are off to a great start then:

 

[TopCat]

They got double the numbers and a cool wizard.

 

[Shechemite]

Physcotic?

Ah, *physchotic* Urban Dictionary: Physchotic

 

[TopCat]

These veteran anti-racists who can't stand the racism of the Labour Party are off to a great start then:

Tint?

 

[TopCat]

Ah, *physchotic* Urban Dictionary: Physchotic

Link ain't working for me. Spell it out.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Tint?

Gotta be tint or tinge. Just incredible.

 

[andysays]

Tint?

Tingle, a funny kind of tingle