Bye bye MEAT! How will the post-meat future look?

[hegley]

Not sure we're even vaguely close the a meat-free future. Regardless of whether you're a meat eater or not, this seems pretty horrific - I mean what could possibly go wrong? :

China’s 26-storey pig skyscraper ready to slaughter 1 million pigs a year

The world’s biggest single-building pig farm has opened in Hubei province, but critics say it will increase the risk of larger animal disease outbreaks

www.theguardian.com

 

[editor]

Cruelty to pets would be eliminated if we eliminated pets.

Also, I'm pretty sure very few pets live "natural lives" in this country.

The vast majority live very comfortable and long lives. And seeing as dogs and cats were domesticated hundreds if not thousands of years ago, it's an entirely natural life for them.

So what is your point here?

 

[editor]

Not sure we're even vaguely close the a meat-free future. Regardless of whether you're a meat eater or not, this seems pretty horrific - I mean what could possibly go wrong? :

China’s 26-storey pig skyscraper ready to slaughter 1 million pigs a year

The world’s biggest single-building pig farm has opened in Hubei province, but critics say it will increase the risk of larger animal disease outbreaks

www.theguardian.com

It's absolutely vile, but probably no worse than the vast chicken factories we have in the UK.

 

[DaphneM]

Not sure we're even vaguely close the a meat-free future. Regardless of whether you're a meat eater or not, this seems pretty horrific - I mean what could possibly go wrong? :

China’s 26-storey pig skyscraper ready to slaughter 1 million pigs a year

The world’s biggest single-building pig farm has opened in Hubei province, but critics say it will increase the risk of larger animal disease outbreaks

www.theguardian.com

you had me at 26 storey pig skyscraper.

No big bad wolf is going to be able to blow that down!

 

[8ball]

And seeing as dogs and cats were domesticated hundreds if not thousands of years ago, it's an entirely natural life for them.

Science!

 

[platinumsage]

The vast majority live very comfortable and long lives. And seeing as dogs and cats were domesticated hundreds if not thousands of years ago, it's an entirely natural life for them.

So what is your point here?

If no cruelty is better than some cruelty and this is sufficient reason alone to delete all farm animals, then the same applies to pets, regardless of the exact proportion subject of cruelty.

Likewise if "dogs and cats were domesticated hundreds if not thousands of years ago, it's an entirely natural life for them" then "cows and sheep were domesticated hundreds if not thousands of years ago, it's an entirely natural life for them". So not sure why that reasoning works either

I think what this boils down to is "I don't like the idea of humans eating animals, and my personal feelings on the matter trump anyone else's".

 

[editor]

If no cruelty is better than some cruelty and this is sufficient reason alone to delete all farm animals, then the same applies to pets, regardless of the exact proportion subject of cruelty.

Likewise if "dogs and cats were domesticated hundreds if not thousands of years ago, it's an entirely natural life for them" then "cows and sheep were domesticated hundreds if not thousands of years ago, it's an entirely natural life for them". So not sure why that reasoning works either

Who was calling to 'delete all farm animals'? And are you really equating the cruelty of factory farming with people's pets?

 

[WouldBe]

Do they look scared and bleed too? like the animals that were slaughtered for your plate?

Beetroot bleeds.

 

[WouldBe]

Who was calling to 'delete all farm animals'? And are you really equating the cruelty of factory farming with people's pets?

See this is your problem. With science you need to be precise and you and your 'evidence' is no where near precise. You post something and you get a reply to that point then you move the goalposts and claim you meant something else.

 

[ddraig]

Beetroot bleeds.

pathetic post(s)

 

[editor]

See this is your problem. With science you need to be precise and you and your 'evidence' is no where near precise. You post something and you get a reply to that point then you move the goalposts and claim you meant something else.

Once again. Who was calling to 'delete all farm animals'?

 

[Karl Masks]

Once again. Who was calling to 'delete all farm animals'?

would farms still keep animals? Presumably just to fertilise land and keep it all 'landy'. But that wouldn't be cheap and they wouldn't be making money from it without selling the meat or dairy or wool or whatever.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Is it too much to ask that we leave the genitals and sexual reproductive activities of other species the fuck alone? Animal farming is really fucking weird and shit (and completely pointless). A relic of more backward and barbarous times. In the 21st century its surely time to call time on this garbage institution.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

The tools for eradicating the barbarism and backward idiocy of animal farming are here - when productive at scale, they will win!

 

[WouldBe]

Once again. Who was calling to 'delete all farm animals'?

Where did I say that?
What does that have to do with what I posted?

 

[editor]

Where did I say that?
What does that have to do with what I posted?

Apologies it was platinumsage speaking such nonsense

 

[bcuster]

 

[8ball]

The tools for eradicating the barbarism and backward idiocy of animal farming are here - when productive at scale, they will win!

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[friedaweed]

The tools for eradicating the barbarism and backward idiocy of animal farming are here - when productive at scale, they will win!

Surely it would be easier to just pop in to the butchers and get a fillet steak.

 

[Karl Masks]

continuing the myth that the only people who know what factory farms are capable of are vegans

 

[Karl Masks]

Beetroot bleeds.

 

[CNT36]

would farms still keep animals? Presumably just to fertilise land and keep it all 'landy'. But that wouldn't be cheap and they wouldn't be making money from it without selling the meat or dairy or wool or whatever.

No one seems interested in a discussion around this so I've given up trying.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Surely it would be easier to just pop in to the butchers and get a fillet steak.

When the non-slaughter meats taste as good, are widely available and cheaper, it will be easier to get the non-slaughter versions.

 

[Funky_monks]

Surely it would be easier to just pop in to the butchers and get a fillet steak.

Nah, some highly processed monstrosity produced by a massive corp in a factory is much preferable because communism or some equally badly thought out bollocks.

 

[ddraig]

Nah, some highly processed monstrosity produced by a massive corp in a factory is much preferable because communism or some equally badly thought out bollocks.

oh dear OH DEAR!!
mask slips

 

[8ball]

oh dear OH DEAR!!
mask slips

Oh, this is going to be funny.

 

[editor]

It's all going a bit right wing... :/

 

[Funky_monks]

oh dear OH DEAR!!
mask slips

WTF are you on about?

In case you haven't been following:
1) Those processed meat alternatives can only be produced by massive corps
2) Jeff seems to think he is some sort of communist
3) See above post where he talks about said massive corps lackey and spawn of a Tory MP and councillor George Monbiot as "Comrade George"

compare with my opinion that:

"food production should be in more people's hands, not fewer"

See? Or do I need to make it jump a bit higher?

 

[The39thStep]

Surely it would be easier to just pop in to the butchers and get a fillet steak.

You seen what they are charging for that vegan ‘fillet steak’ ?

 

[8ball]

You seen what they are charging for that vegan ‘fillet steak’ ?

It’s not meant to be for poor people.

The value proposition is “fillet steak plus virtue-signalling”. That’s premium market positioning.