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Study suggests that cats may get health benefits from vegan diet

Cats do what cats want to do. If they don't like it, they'll let you know, sure enough.

Well I suspect mine would complain quite a lot, but I'm not closed to buying a pouch and asking their opinion. I'll put it down next to the regular stuff and see what happens.

They are also outdoor cats can also leave and go hunting at least go beg for food elsewhere. Well one of them. The other would totally starve if she had to hunt.
 
I used to feed two cats who roamed at one of my work sites. Both were so friendly which isn’t a given with cats. I think one moved away and the other was an abandoned stray who disappeared also for a while but did return briefly looking absolutely gleaming with a collar round its neck so somebody had obviously taken it in. That was lovely to see tbh. Rarely see it now at all.
 
Well I suspect mine would complain quite a lot, but I'm not closed to buying a pouch and asking their opinion. I'll put it down next to the regular stuff and see what happens.

They are also outdoor cats can also leave and go hunting at least go beg for food elsewhere. Well one of them. The other would totally starve if she had to hunt.
I was confused about the concept of indoor cats anyway, being in the country. We don't have any now but it seems locking them inside is worse than letting them roam. My MIL has some but they are inbred siamese things worth some stupid amount and one was nicked so its a protection thing there. Here we haven't locked the car door in 10 years so its less of an issue lol.
 
I was confused about the concept of indoor cats anyway, being in the country. We don't have any now but it seems locking them inside is worse than letting them roam. My MIL has some but they are inbred siamese things worth some stupid amount and one was nicked so its a protection thing there. Here we haven't locked the car door in 10 years so its less of an issue lol.
First off, the key reason for keeping cats indoors is to stop them getting run over. Cats often have the same insouciant attitude to passing cars as to their human servants. Which does not end well…
Second, it is not either/or—our wonderful Persian cat has a collar linked to a system of wires buried in the garden so that she can happily and safely go outside.
PS we live in the country too: and even have cars…
 
Hahaha!

I'm interested in how your cat's collar interacts with "a system of wires buried in the garden" and how that means "she can happily and safely go outside".

I have never come across such a system before, and am interested in how it works. Could you explain it to me please?
They use buried wires for those robot lawnmowers. All you need to do is get the collar to make a sound when the wire is detected and train the cat to turn away from it. :hmm:
 
To state the obvious, aren’t cats literally carnivores? :confused: I mean, I do once remember a cat tucking in happily to a vegetarian curry* but generally as a species, they’re pretty much designed to eat meat. Perfectly so in fact 😻

*at the bunkhouse during the urban walk the police got alerted to, for those who remember…
 
Also I had to triple check the date of the article, as reading it gave me significant deja vu. And then I remembered this article about dogs, which included this very important paragraph (my emphasis):

Survey-based studies cannot reveal the reasons for their results but Knight suggested weight problems might be an important factor: “One of the most common health problems for dogs is being overweight or obese and it is unfortunately common that when we do tests on the commercial meat-based diets, there are more calories.”
Therefore I hope the results were analysed factoring in other variables, such as comparing indoor cats with indoor cats. It’s known that outdoor cats have more trips to vets and die earlier on average.
 
Cats like grazing on green stuff and I have had a cat that loved to eat chunks of cucumber too!

But if they have some meat or fish to choose from rather than some vegan petfood faddy crap they will always choose that. They are carnivores. Some people are just deluded.
 
Tbf I don’t think the vegan pet food is just veggies with taurine added - it sounds like a manufactured protein based meat substitute, with the major nutrients being added. But vegan meat substitute is still not meat - you can tell by comparing the nutritional information of quorn with beef or chicken. In humans that’s largely fine* because as omnivores we have the potential for huge diversity in our diets, but that’s not so much with cats. Who is to say what other nutritional qualities of meat are really important, which haven’t been added after the main ones?

I’m also aware from the dieticians at work that food supplementation is fantastic but it’s still not a substitute for actual food, for reasons that aren’t still fully understood. I remember something about fibres (not the type that helps you poo) but that’s as far as I got.

I’m not saying that there couldn’t be a well balanced fake meat that cats can thrive on, but it would need more analysis than a short self selecting survey of pet owners.

*unless you’ve got/your genetic family has got a history of nutritional deficiencies or gut issues
 
Cats and dogs have very different digestive systems to us. We can survive fine on a vegan diet. Im not sure a pet would be at full health long term.

In particular, there is zero clear evidence showing this is the same for cats. Maybe a bit more for dogs but im still not hugely convinced. It's more complex than just "will a dog/cat eat it".

Maybe adding more plant based stuff mixed with some meat or fish would be a good balance to reduce the ecological impact of pet food. But in the end the full 'vegan diet' thing is 100% for the owners' benefit....
 
Surely if you are a committed vegan you just don't have a cat.....cat's are obligate carnivores and cannot survive without some form of meat
 
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