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hungry_squirrel said:
Oh come off it. I would agree if it was good natured, but it obviously wasn't.
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oh sorry, were you at the party? from what i’ve heard undercover cops came to the party, were told to fuck off so they called in the tsg - if that’s clever policing two weeks after george floyd and the blm protests i’m a unicorn
 
Rushy said:
You said that the police would have allowed it to continue in Manchester. I'm saying that I would be quite surprised if that were so. That's it really.
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yeah but you say that in the basis of a clip that has no context whatsoever, is it taken before any police were on the scene? impossible from what i know as there was the sound of police helicopters from about 5pm and it doesn’t get fully dark until about 10.30 - what happened before the police were sent in was a party with no violence as far as i know and should have been left or policed very lightly
 
At the bottom of the screen today when you open a new tab to search google, there was a button that said "Take a look at the life of Olive Morris" and clicking it gives you this

artsandculture.google.com

My heart will always be in Brixton: Olive Morris - Google Arts & Culture

An exhibition of artwork by Linett Kamala inspired by the activism of Olive Morris
artsandculture.google.com artsandculture.google.com

Thought it might be of interest, seems a good thing that it's there. I wonder if the buttons you get are tailored to your interests, or if they're the same for everyone?
 
chainsawjob said:
At the bottom of the screen today when you open a new tab to search google, there was a button that said "Take a look at the life of Olive Morris" and clicking it gives you this

artsandculture.google.com

My heart will always be in Brixton: Olive Morris - Google Arts & Culture

An exhibition of artwork by Linett Kamala inspired by the activism of Olive Morris
artsandculture.google.com artsandculture.google.com

Thought it might be of interest, seems a good thing that it's there. I wonder if the buttons you get are tailored to your interests, or if they're the same for everyone?
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It's google celebrating what would have been her 68th Birthday today. Just as Brixton is wiping the name away.
 
Rushy said:
You said that the police would have allowed it to continue in Manchester. I'm saying that I would be quite surprised if that were so. That's it really.
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lefteri context is everything.
I want to tell you a story. Back in 1987 my part of Coldharbour Lane was plagued by noisy parties. Not just noisy parties - but parties where the people took over a house, moved heavy sound system speakers into back garden, pointing them INTO the house. This was a pay-on-the door blues type thing and loads of my neighbours were up in arms. We consulted the police, and the Ujima Housing Assn,. who owned the house.

The police response was: "Ring us as soon as the van turns up and starts getting the equipment ready. We'll come down and tell them they got to take it away. But if they get set up, and start, we/re not prepared to break it up - could result in disorder etc etc"

The Ujima management provided a quick solution though - their Brixton office manager (who was Victor Adebowale - since moved on to higher things) called the tenant responsible into the office. The guy was apparently six months in arrears with the rent. According to Victor the reason he gave for having the blues parties was to pay off the rent arrears. Fortunately Victor and Ujima didn't believe that and the tenant was evicted. Peace was restored

I'm just going on like this to say the police were pragmatic at least sometimes about parties 33 years ago. What happened 2 days ago?
 
CH1 said:
What happened 2 days ago?
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i’d love to know, i’m only going on some hearsay around our estate, which is next to angell town, some random videos posted on the internet and the met report - which i am inclined to disbelieve most of

i’m not sure a tenant being made homeless for having loud parties is a particularly happy ending to your story by the way, despite it being a resolution other tenants were pleased with
 
lefteri said:
i’m not sure a tenant being made homeless for having loud parties is a particularly happy ending to your story by the way, despite it being a resolution other tenants were pleased with
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perhaps he shouldnt have been taking the piss and causing other people aggro ?
 
lefteri said:
popica, the bulk store that used to have a vegan pancake cafe attached, has sacks of the stuff, can’t see it running out any time soon - on brixton road by the bottom of lorn road
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i went there today randomly. I suppose because they don't sell as much it ends up being more expensive which is kind of mad, isn't it all supposed to be about bulk no packaging,
Back to Nour Cash'n'Carry i think.
 
CH1 said:
lefteri context is everything.
I want to tell you a story. Back in 1987 my part of Coldharbour Lane was plagued by noisy parties. Not just noisy parties - but parties where the people took over a house, moved heavy sound system speakers into back garden, pointing them INTO the house. This was a pay-on-the door blues type thing and loads of my neighbours were up in arms. We consulted the police, and the Ujima Housing Assn,. who owned the house.

The police response was: "Ring us as soon as the van turns up and starts getting the equipment ready. We'll come down and tell them they got to take it away. But if they get set up, and start, we/re not prepared to break it up - could result in disorder etc etc"

The Ujima management provided a quick solution though - their Brixton office manager (who was Victor Adebowale - since moved on to higher things) called the tenant responsible into the office. The guy was apparently six months in arrears with the rent. According to Victor the reason he gave for having the blues parties was to pay off the rent arrears. Fortunately Victor and Ujima didn't believe that and the tenant was evicted. Peace was restored

I'm just going on like this to say the police were pragmatic at least sometimes about parties 33 years ago. What happened 2 days ago?
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Well done!
 
DJWrongspeed said:
i went there today randomly. I suppose because they don't sell as much it ends up being more expensive which is kind of mad, isn't it all supposed to be about bulk no packaging,
Back to Nour Cash'n'Carry i think.
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it’s more like brixton wholefoods, which is also bloody expensive, than nour - interestingly low price, which is bang opposite jamm, is turning into a mini nour - it’s massively expanded its range since lockdown
 
lefteri said:
perhaps the story is more complex than that and perhaps eviction shouldn’t be the first port of call for social problems
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Actually Ujima was a supported housing organisation. So whatever happened it wasn't like a private landlord kicked him out, or indeed the council (not that Lambeth Council in the 1980s were noted for speedy evictions).

If you read this report (done as a result of their financial collapse in 2008) it would appear that back in the 1980s Ujima was seen as an exemplary social landlord with a remit to deal with ex-offenders, addictions etc. So I doubt Victor Adebowale was taking an uninformed action - and after all it appears from what he said that the tenant was offered the option to cease being a nuisance to everyone. Of course nobody has questioned whether the other 5 or 6 tenants in the house were happy to be hosting a blues - or whether the guy was breaching his bail conditions. There are numerous possibilities.

Ujima’s history (excerpt - link at the end)

1. The relationship between race equality and housing has been inextricably linked since the first waves of immigration of the 1950s. The first BME associations were formed against a backdrop of racial discrimination in housing prior to legislation that made these practices unlawful.

2. Ujima Housing Association was founded in 1977 and registered with the Corporation on 28 January 1980. It quickly established itself as a provider of housing that met the needs of vulnerable people. Importantly, it became a specialist provider of support services, in particular to older people and those with mental health problems and vulnerabilities.

3. For 20 years the Corporation has provided explicit support for BME housing associations as part of its wider focus on promoting equality of opportunity. In view of this, the Inquiry Team was asked to give consideration of how the Corporation's powers were employed in ensuring its objective of sustaining a vibrant, independent BME sector. We have therefore considered how Ujima's BME status affected the Corporation's regulatory approach and, in Appendix 2, we highlight the various policy and financial commitments made in support of BME associations and communities by the Corporation since 1985.

4. A five-year plan adopted in 1986 by the Corporation saw its first strategic focus on support for BME associations and this later developed further. In 1998, the Corporation published its BME housing policy, which extended race equality expectations across the sector. This was followed in 2005 by a BME action plan. In this climate Ujima, together with other BME associations, enjoyed a period of sustained growth. By 2006, Ujima was the largest BME association and was operating across 19 London boroughs – managing around 4,500 homes, of which 400 were provided for vulnerable people.

5. Today there are almost 50 BME associations, which have been supported through more than £750 million of capital funding, enabling them to develop alongside the changing dynamics of the communities they serve.

6. The impact of the Corporation’s support over 25 years for BME associations was summed up by an independent evaluation in 2004, which concluded: “The BME association initiative was seen as a powerful one, and overall it is a success story.”

7. Increasingly today the sector recognises that alleviating social disadvantage requires more than housing alone. Many have made this shift and are now operating as social enterprises that address community cohesion, vulnerable people, worklessness, education and health.

8. Although Ujima had not been without its problems even before the period covered in this report, its contribution to the movement and its legacy as both a catalyst for developing black talent, and as the provider of housing and support services to socially excluded and vulnerable people from ethnic minorities, should not be underestimated.

see http://www.christylawrance.plus.com/marksmulian/pdf11/hcujima.pdf
 
I just want to make a note of the street musical event I attended on Thursday in Bonham Road (corner with Heycroft Road). Apparently the people of Bonham Road did the clap for carers regularly on Thursday evenings, and as some of the residents are professional musicians, they decided to follow up the clapping with some small-scale chamber arrangements as an entertainment.

The clap for carers has now stopped, but the Bonham/Heycroft chamber music series is still going strong. Recitals are around 30 minutes long.

On Thursday there were a couple of short introductory numbers and the main course was movements 2,3 and 4 of Beethoven's 1st symphony. This was played by a synth keyboard duet, with flute and bass clarinet accompaniment.

I thought the piece sounded great. How on earth you cut down the orchestration of a Beethoven symphony to keyboard duet and two wind instruments I can't imagine - but I know the piece very well and our street performers got the spirit across excellently.

There was an encore - in the manner of Kurt Weill I thought.

Sorry I didn't have a phone or camera to take pictures. The group will be performing again next Thursday at 8 pm.
I guess the programme is yet to be revealed. Maybe Haydn's "Surprise" symphony?
 
Channel Four news had some interviews about problems for black small businesses accessing business loans etc this evening.
I saw someone being interviewed at the Coldharbour Lane entrance to Brixton Village around 2pm.
My brother (who saw the news item on TV) said there was another interview outside the Ritzy.

I'll see if I can locate the item online - doubtless its on the Channel Four player.
 
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