felonius monk
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I think the SW9 post code was essentially Stockwell (and SW2 Brixton in the alphabetical method of sorting office used at the time).
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Puddy_Tat
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it depends what estate agent you ask
but 1870s map marks the triangle between the railway, Clapham Road and Stockwell Road as being 'Stockwell'; Stockwell Green (then still a village green) is half way between Brixton and where Stockwell Underground is now, and Stockwell Lodge was about where Lambeth Hospital is (or was until recently.)
Railway station names could stretch geography a bit - as the Underground didn't get to Stockwell until 1890, the LCDR probably wanted to attract custom from Stockwell, then the Underground station being where it was probably moved the 'centre of gravity' of Stockwell to there rather than the old village green.
More so in rural areas, where you got stations called [somewhere] Road - which meant it could be a few miles from that village, or [somwehere] and [somewhere else] meaning it's half way between the two of them...
Yes - I can't find any photos of Station Road that show any form of access to the down Catford loop platform, so presume it wasn't very substantially built, but not uncommmon at london suburban stations to have a ticket collector's box and exit on the down (from London) platform, even if the gate was only open and staffed during the evening peak. Presume they let people in if they already had a ticket, otherwise you'd have had to go to the ticket office. A couple of stations I can think of had this sort of thing - some are now open all the time with an Oyster reader (where the station has no barriers), some have been closed permanently (where the station does have barriers)
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Billy Duffy (The Cult) Clifton Mansions '83
With the Falcon - London 1983 - Billy Duffy
“This picture of me with my first ‘single cut away’ Gretsch White Falcon was taken in my room in Clifton Mansions, Brixton, London. It was... Read more »
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Hopefully they'll be plenty of CCTV to identify the attacker.More depressing news:
Brixton: Couple injured in another homophobic attack in south London
Police are investigating an assault on two men in Brixton who were punched at a bus stop.www.bbc.co.uk
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Puddy_Tat
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just tried a slightly different search, and for some reason this one didn't come up earlier
from urban 75 of all places...
looks like it was a bit basic and bolted on to the side of the viaduct. can't see any obvious signs from the brickwork (from street view) to show where it was, so it may have been an after-thought then.
Casaubon
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Clifton Mansions had a few musical residents.Billy Duffy (The Cult) Clifton Mansions '83
With the Falcon - London 1983 - Billy Duffy
“This picture of me with my first ‘single cut away’ Gretsch White Falcon was taken in my room in Clifton Mansions, Brixton, London. It was... Read more »www.billyduffy.com
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Brixton does use the Stockwell postcode.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
missed this, but yes -
SW2 is postally 'Brixton', SW8 'South Lambeth' and SW9 'Stockwell' although the geography of London postcodes is based on how postal sorting offices worked in 1917, so they have never matched local authority boundaries (particularly the pre-1965 boundary between the London County Council area and Surrey / Kent / Essex etc - the London postal district was much bigger than the LCC area), and where one neighbourhood starts / ends in London is complicated.
teuchter
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NB the whole platform was bolted on - so extended out from the brick viaduct we can see now, and then the stairs would have projected out a bit more.just tried a slightly different search, and for some reason this one didn't come up earlier
from urban 75 of all places...
looks like it was a bit basic and bolted on to the side of the viaduct. can't see any obvious signs from the brickwork (from street view) to show where it was, so it may have been an after-thought then.
The fact that the platform once extended out here probably explains why Brixton Station Rd to this day is not a full width roadway and has the generous pavement width alongside the viaduct. It would have been a kind of mirror image of what still exists (although not all in the original construction) along Atlantic Rd.
It's possible that oroginally you would have entered the station building, then passed under the viaducts, then up those external stairs, all in an enclosed route so there might not have been direct access from Station Rd. The stairs would have been used by passengers changing platforms too so they might not have wanted to have this flow mixed up with that along the street.
The platform structure would have been on a series of iron or timber columns & beams. I'd put my money on these holes being where the main beams would have fixed into the viaduct. They are all along Station Rd but some have got covered up with decorative panels.
ash
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I agree I was being facetious. Culture wars and politics have a lot to answer for
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Inittogether
Discussing it on LBC at the moment
friendofdorothy
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I still blame Thatcher.
Railton Road
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Woman living in pavement shack says she's happier than ever
The 50-year-old get water running off guttering of homes and uses toilets at nearby businesses
Have chatted with this lady a few times, she seemed far from happy.Railton Road
Woman living in pavement shack says she's happier than ever
The 50-year-old get water running off guttering of homes and uses toilets at nearby businesses
Is she OK mentally?
That website really is the pits - this woman is obvious homeless yet they say this. Just bizarre.Railton Road
Woman living in pavement shack says she's happier than ever
The 50-year-old get water running off guttering of homes and uses toilets at nearby businesses
I am not qualified to make a judgement on that.
CH1
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Seems like TFL did their usual kettling for the Notting Hill carnival yesterday - and will no doubt repeat this today.
Good service on the Victoria line on the TFL website - but Brixton tube closed in the afternoon.
Didn't affect me immediately as I use the overhead to got to the Royal Albert Hall in the late afternoon.
But wait - the 52 bus was in its place at Victoria station - the driver was not allowing anyone on board - either go round the corner for the special carnival bus - or take the tube he says.
On the way home it was more bizarre still at 10 pm. Took tube at South Ken - only to find between Sloane Square and Victoria "This train is not stopping at the next station" (ie Victoria). So changed at Embankment to the Northern Line. Trains every 2 minutes to Battersea Power Station - but trying to change at Kennington was a nightmare.
Next Morden service was 18 miniutes - and the platform was already dangerously overcrowded. Didn't wait to see if the train, on arrival, was also overcrowded.
But the lift area leaving Kennington was a bit desperate with people not used to being jammed in a lift like a sardine.
Naturally the first bus (a 155) going south was too full to stop - so decided to walk. Luckily an irritated young passenger showed the way to go and made a dash across the road in the direction of Kennington Post Office - so was able to get on a 98% occupied 59 bus towards Brixton.
Was message are the Met Police and TFL sending out here? - If you want to go to Carnival, or central London on a carnival day - DRIVE?
Surely this type of official lock-down was unheard of in the 1980s.
I guess some helpful person will be telling me that the population of London has doubled and the infrastructure is just not there for people to travel safely when there is a carnival in Notting Hill?
Good service on the Victoria line on the TFL website - but Brixton tube closed in the afternoon.
Didn't affect me immediately as I use the overhead to got to the Royal Albert Hall in the late afternoon.
But wait - the 52 bus was in its place at Victoria station - the driver was not allowing anyone on board - either go round the corner for the special carnival bus - or take the tube he says.
On the way home it was more bizarre still at 10 pm. Took tube at South Ken - only to find between Sloane Square and Victoria "This train is not stopping at the next station" (ie Victoria). So changed at Embankment to the Northern Line. Trains every 2 minutes to Battersea Power Station - but trying to change at Kennington was a nightmare.
Next Morden service was 18 miniutes - and the platform was already dangerously overcrowded. Didn't wait to see if the train, on arrival, was also overcrowded.
But the lift area leaving Kennington was a bit desperate with people not used to being jammed in a lift like a sardine.
Naturally the first bus (a 155) going south was too full to stop - so decided to walk. Luckily an irritated young passenger showed the way to go and made a dash across the road in the direction of Kennington Post Office - so was able to get on a 98% occupied 59 bus towards Brixton.
Was message are the Met Police and TFL sending out here? - If you want to go to Carnival, or central London on a carnival day - DRIVE?
Surely this type of official lock-down was unheard of in the 1980s.
I guess some helpful person will be telling me that the population of London has doubled and the infrastructure is just not there for people to travel safely when there is a carnival in Notting Hill?
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
When I left the Beehive about 10.30 pm the police had taped off \Brixton Road ar the junction with Stockwell Road. There was an ambulance roughly outside the UCKG.
Lots of pissed off decanted bus passengers streaming up towards central Brixton disrupting traffic into Gresham Road ie 345 bus etc.
Shows clear on TFL now though.
Lots of pissed off decanted bus passengers streaming up towards central Brixton disrupting traffic into Gresham Road ie 345 bus etc.
Shows clear on TFL now though.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
I miss Clifton mansions and the community that lived there. I knew many who passed through on there journies down the years. I DJ'd there on the last night which was fun but tinged with sadness. It's amazing how quick that stretch of Brixton changed and evolved. The place always had energy about it. Be it music from the block, a musician practicing, artists painting props and things, groups of people out on the forecourt socialising. Now it's like walking past a convent, it's so quiet and lifeless.Clifton Mansions had a few musical residents.
Brixton and surrounds musical history thread...artistes, venues, gigs, festivals and more......
Tony Thorpe local legend, career spanning decades and multiple genres from 400 blows circa 1985 to the present day...... DJ producer remixer https://www.discogs.com/artist/5759-The-Moody-Boys https://peel.fandom.com/wiki/400_Blows https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moody_Boys
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A huge part of the crowd for my club nights at the Prince Albert completely changed after the evictions, and the vacuum appeared to be filled with people who had a whole lot less interest in live music or being involved with the night. Suddenly people were standing in front of the stage with their backs to the band so they could get their Insta selfies. The place is slowly getting back, but I miss putting on bands.
theboris
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New wine shop opening on Arlington Parade, Brixton Hill, site of the old Alpha Rocks solicitors. Looks like it's proper French CAVAVIN The Wine Shop
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Interesting. Other than periodic renaming of the chicken shop, computer repair shop and the newsagents, that row of shops has been pretty unchanged for almost 20 years. It's been much more resilient to gentrification than the strip further up the Hill past Brixton Water Lane.
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That's what I said about the strip opposite the Barrier Block and then - wham! - say hello to two posh hairdressers, upmarket pizzeria, estate agents (now gone, lol) and a wine bar!
theboris
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be interesting to see what the currently un-let ground floor unit on the old Olive Morris House site will be. The right hand one is already being occupied by Lambeth Archives, but the left one, bordering Hayter Rd has not got a use yet, according to the builders there I asked the other week.
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