beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Grifters gotta grift…
Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
- Thread starter teuchter
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Looks like OneLambeth have now reached their funding target as they received a £2.5k private donation and have less than that to reach the target. Presumably they’ll close it now rather than keep asking for money….
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Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
I think I’ve now perfected my very balanced analysis of LTNs when questioned by chatty taxi drivers. 
sparkybird
ask the bird...
Please share your secrets!I think I’ve now perfected my very balanced analysis of LTNs when questioned by chatty taxi drivers.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Phase 2 of the Oval ltn is going ahead:
moderngov.lambeth.gov.uk
Decision - Oval to Stockwell Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) - Phase 2 | Lambeth Council
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sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
More active travel, The Big Shift.
love.lambeth.gov.uk
Seven new LTNs!
Love Lambeth
Lambeth Council has announced a huge new investment in sustainable travel as part the borough’s ongoing and ambitious efforts to cut air pollution, make our roads safer and to tackle the borough’s health inequalities.
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Seven new LTNs!
teuchter
je suis teuchter
So looks like the 7 LTNS are 3 (already underway?) trialsMore active travel, The Big Shift.
Love Lambeth
Lambeth Council has announced a huge new investment in sustainable travel as part the borough’s ongoing and ambitious efforts to cut air pollution, make our roads safer and to tackle the borough’s health inequalities.
Seven new LTNs!
And then 4 further ones
These sound like they’re going to be great!
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sparkybird
ask the bird...
The 3 new ones are apparently at design stage (Streatham Wells, Brixton Hill and West Dulwich) and residents have been told they will be in place by the end of the financial year.
End of which financial year ?
brilliant
nick
Pleomorphic Adenomas R us
Recommend the objection report
I just took a look as I was concerned that of 1,049 responses, 1,008 were objections:
It seemed to me that, with that bias to objections, (even accepting that objectors are more likely to respond than supporters) there may be something to said objections.
I infer from table 2 that about half of these objections were on the One Lambeth template
Report claims that many of the objections had multiple reasons. Here are some of the goodies (the ones I have selected obviously reflect my own bias);:
I pity the poor council officer who had to respond to these with a straight face (these from the Generic Objection table)
I just took a look as I was concerned that of 1,049 responses, 1,008 were objections:
It seemed to me that, with that bias to objections, (even accepting that objectors are more likely to respond than supporters) there may be something to said objections.
I infer from table 2 that about half of these objections were on the One Lambeth template
Report claims that many of the objections had multiple reasons. Here are some of the goodies (the ones I have selected obviously reflect my own bias);:
I pity the poor council officer who had to respond to these with a straight face (these from the Generic Objection table)
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
“There were 1049 individual responses received during the consultation, of these: 1008 were template objections (96.1%)”
nick
Pleomorphic Adenomas R us
Suspect you are right.
I gave benefit of doubt and assumed that this meant 1008 were objections on an official complaint template, rather than a free form letter, or whatever.
But irrelevant since table 2 implies that at least 600 were onesie generic objections (largest number in table 2)
nick
Pleomorphic Adenomas R us
TBF they could work at a school, or have to drop the littleuns at school (in a car) before coming home for a cup of tea and then driving to work
That’s a separate question 18.7% of them are affected - so 18.7% + 55% report issues affecting getting themselves or their kids to school.
I left the 18.7 out as they very likely do overlap with the 55% who work.
Tbh - we are looking at the 55% of respondents who selected every option.
Remember these people are the ones who wipe their arse on the consultation efforts, and then complain they aren’t consulted.
nick
Pleomorphic Adenomas R us
It's a good point, well made.
sparkybird
ask the bird...
The current one
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Myatt's Fields is huge. About 125 hectare vs. 20 for the Stockwell Gardens one. Badly needed though, cos the ratruns through here are horrible for cycling. While they're at it make Patmos Road two way for bicycles, all the way to Vassall Road please.
Would be nice if the cycle lanes on Loughborough Road were better integrated. The road is so wide it could easily support full segregation, and there's already tons of parking on the estates either side.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I think Loughborough Road is considered delicate ground following the earlier LJ closures trials.
Kind of interesting to note that what's now proposed is almost the opposite to that early scheme, which attempted to make Loughborough Road a non through route. Now it's specifically identified as a through route - a boundary road for/between the Myatts and Angell LTNs. And Loughborough Junction is destined to remain centred on a 4 way through-road junction. Hopefully with gradually less traffic over time though.
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
If you’ve got time to stop for a cup of tea, you’ve got time to walk your kids to school. Particularly given in this part of London, primary schools should be in walking distance for most people (obviously there are some exceptions like families who move, kids who regularly stay with different carers/go to specialist provision schools/have mobility considerations etc).
Never really got the “I’ve got to drop my kids off before work” reasoning. I spent two years doing a school/childminder > nursery > work commute via public transport - it should really be possible in zone 2/3 London.
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8ball
AV REFUGEES WELCOME
Self-improving adult education types. Is to be applauded.
They worked out that if they've got time to stop for a cup of tea, they've got time for education.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
There seem to be decent looking plans for Loughborough Road
Loughborough Road Healthy Route – your views wanted!
Ambitious plans to improve health and safety in our community are being unveiled by Lambeth Council. If approved, the scheme — for a ‘healthy route’ on Loughborough Rd — wil…
myattsfieldslabour.uk
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
It's a good start, but they have obviously been cowed by the botched previous scheme. They retain on-street parking, right next to the cycle lane with only a row of bollards between. Not safe.There seem to be decent looking plans for Loughborough Road
Loughborough Road Healthy Route – your views wanted!
Ambitious plans to improve health and safety in our community are being unveiled by Lambeth Council. If approved, the scheme — for a ‘healthy route’ on Loughborough Rd — wil…
They even do this ridiculous thing where the cycle lane goes in front of the bus stop, which just invites collisions between peds and cycles. If there was no on-street parking, the road lanes could simply shift out of the way for a regular bus island.
The road is more than wide enough. Compromises should not be neccesary. If that much parking is needed (which I'd argue it's not) then there's tons of space off-street. Obviously, the council can't make that happen so.... sigh.
The junction at fiveways pinches what should be a continuously protected route through the junction. Akerman Road is plenty wide enough, but again car parking must be protected. No idea why they're pinching the North end of Loughborough Road. Southbound cycles and vehicles are forced to share space, when there's plenty of room for both side by side. EDIT: I suppose this will become more pleasant once Akerman becomes part of an LTN. In that case, Northbound cycles will need their own green phase to avoid being hooked by through traffic turning left.
The junction with Coldharbour Lane is notably absent.
sparkybird
ask the bird...
Especially as car ownership is falling in the borough. Time to reclaim that road space for public rather than private use
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Crispy
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Yep, just measured it at
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