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Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists

Looks like OneLambeth have now reached their funding target as they received a £2.5k private donation and have less than that to reach the target. Presumably they’ll close it now rather than keep asking for money….


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More active travel, The Big Shift.


Seven new LTNs!
 
More active travel, The Big Shift.


Seven new LTNs!
So looks like the 7 LTNS are 3 (already underway?) trials

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And then 4 further ones

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Recommend the objection report

I just took a look as I was concerned that of 1,049 responses, 1,008 were objections:
It seemed to me that, with that bias to objections, (even accepting that objectors are more likely to respond than supporters) there may be something to said objections.

I infer from table 2 that about half of these objections were on the One Lambeth template

Report claims that many of the objections had multiple reasons. Here are some of the goodies (the ones I have selected obviously reflect my own bias);:

I pity the poor council officer who had to respond to these with a straight face (these from the Generic Objection table)

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Recommend the objection report

I just took a look as I was concerned that of 1,049 responses, 1,008 were objections:
It seemed to me that, with that bias to objections, (even accepting that objectors are more likely to respond than supporters) there may be something to said objections.

I infer from table 2 that about half of these objections were on the One Lambeth template

Report claims that many of the objections had multiple reasons. Here are some of the goodies (the ones I have selected obviously reflect my own bias);:

I pity the poor council officer who had to respond to these with a straight face (these from the Generic Objection table)

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“There were 1049 individual responses received during the consultation, of these:  1008 were template objections (96.1%)”
 
Recommend the objection report

I just took a look as I was concerned that of 1,049 responses, 1,008 were objections:
It seemed to me that, with that bias to objections, (even accepting that objectors are more likely to respond than supporters) there may be something to said objections.

I infer from table 2 that about half of these objections were on the One Lambeth template

Report claims that many of the objections had multiple reasons. Here are some of the goodies (the ones I have selected obviously reflect my own bias);:

I pity the poor council officer who had to respond to these with a straight face (these from the Generic Objection table)

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55% of them go to work and 54.7% of them also go to school.

Interesting dataset.
 
“There were 1049 individual responses received during the consultation, of these:  1008 were template objections (96.1%)”
Suspect you are right.
I gave benefit of doubt and assumed that this meant 1008 were objections on an official complaint template, rather than a free form letter, or whatever.
But irrelevant since table 2 implies that at least 600 were onesie generic objections (largest number in table 2)
 
55% of them go to work and 54.7% of them also go to school.

Interesting dataset.
TBF they could work at a school, or have to drop the littleuns at school (in a car) before coming home for a cup of tea and then driving to work
 
TBF they could work at a school, or have to drop the littleuns at school (in a car) before coming home for a cup of tea and then driving to work

That’s a separate question 18.7% of them are affected - so 18.7% + 55% report issues affecting getting themselves or their kids to school.

I left the 18.7 out as they very likely do overlap with the 55% who work.

Tbh - we are looking at the 55% of respondents who selected every option.

Remember these people are the ones who wipe their arse on the consultation efforts, and then complain they aren’t consulted.
 
That’s a separate question 18.7% of them are affected - so 18.7% + 55% report issues affecting getting themselves or their kids to school.

I left the 18.7 out as they very likely do overlap with the 55% who work.

Tbh - we are looking at the 55% of respondents who selected every option.

Remember these people are the ones who wipe their arse on the consultation efforts, and then complain they aren’t consulted.
It's a good point, well made.
 
And then 4 further ones

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Myatt's Fields is huge. About 125 hectare vs. 20 for the Stockwell Gardens one. Badly needed though, cos the ratruns through here are horrible for cycling. While they're at it make Patmos Road two way for bicycles, all the way to Vassall Road please.

Would be nice if the cycle lanes on Loughborough Road were better integrated. The road is so wide it could easily support full segregation, and there's already tons of parking on the estates either side.
 
Myatt's Fields is huge. About 125 hectare vs. 20 for the Stockwell Gardens one. Badly needed though, cos the ratruns through here are horrible for cycling. While they're at it make Patmos Road two way for bicycles, all the way to Vassall Road please.

Would be nice if the cycle lanes on Loughborough Road were better integrated. The road is so wide it could easily support full segregation, and there's already tons of parking on the estates either side.
I think Loughborough Road is considered delicate ground following the earlier LJ closures trials.

Kind of interesting to note that what's now proposed is almost the opposite to that early scheme, which attempted to make Loughborough Road a non through route. Now it's specifically identified as a through route - a boundary road for/between the Myatts and Angell LTNs. And Loughborough Junction is destined to remain centred on a 4 way through-road junction. Hopefully with gradually less traffic over time though.
 
TBF they could work at a school, or have to drop the littleuns at school (in a car) before coming home for a cup of tea and then driving to work
If you’ve got time to stop for a cup of tea, you’ve got time to walk your kids to school. Particularly given in this part of London, primary schools should be in walking distance for most people (obviously there are some exceptions like families who move, kids who regularly stay with different carers/go to specialist provision schools/have mobility considerations etc).

Never really got the “I’ve got to drop my kids off before work” reasoning. I spent two years doing a school/childminder > nursery > work commute via public transport - it should really be possible in zone 2/3 London.
 
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55% of them go to work and 54.7% of them also go to school.

Interesting dataset.

Self-improving adult education types. Is to be applauded.
They worked out that if they've got time to stop for a cup of tea, they've got time for education.
 
Myatt's Fields is huge. About 125 hectare vs. 20 for the Stockwell Gardens one. Badly needed though, cos the ratruns through here are horrible for cycling. While they're at it make Patmos Road two way for bicycles, all the way to Vassall Road please.

Would be nice if the cycle lanes on Loughborough Road were better integrated. The road is so wide it could easily support full segregation, and there's already tons of parking on the estates either side.
There seem to be decent looking plans for Loughborough Road

 
There seem to be decent looking plans for Loughborough Road

It's a good start, but they have obviously been cowed by the botched previous scheme. They retain on-street parking, right next to the cycle lane with only a row of bollards between. Not safe.

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They even do this ridiculous thing where the cycle lane goes in front of the bus stop, which just invites collisions between peds and cycles. If there was no on-street parking, the road lanes could simply shift out of the way for a regular bus island.

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The road is more than wide enough. Compromises should not be neccesary. If that much parking is needed (which I'd argue it's not) then there's tons of space off-street. Obviously, the council can't make that happen so.... sigh.

The junction at fiveways pinches what should be a continuously protected route through the junction. Akerman Road is plenty wide enough, but again car parking must be protected. No idea why they're pinching the North end of Loughborough Road. Southbound cycles and vehicles are forced to share space, when there's plenty of room for both side by side. EDIT: I suppose this will become more pleasant once Akerman becomes part of an LTN. In that case, Northbound cycles will need their own green phase to avoid being hooked by through traffic turning left.

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The junction with Coldharbour Lane is notably absent.
 
Especially as car ownership is falling in the borough. Time to reclaim that road space for public rather than private use
 
I’m not sure the floating parking spaces are better, it might just hide cyclists coming to the junction, I’d still be cycling on the road.

Crispy Are you sure Ackerman rd is that wide?.
 
I’m not sure the floating parking spaces are better, it might just hide cyclists coming to the junction, I’d still be cycling on the road.

Crispy Are you sure Ackerman rd is that wide?.
Yep, just measured it at 13m 12.5m off google maps, which is accurate to the degree needed for this sort of thing. I could go and get the OS to be sure...
 
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