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Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
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sleaterkinney
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I found it, it’s a webpage specifically for affiliated cycling club members to join:
Affiliates Programme: Individual Club Member Offer Page | London Cycling Campaign
But you’d only get that if you were a member of a cycling club to begin with. A bit pathetic, isn’t it.
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
It's not the word itself but the sentence it was contained in. Certainly not something I'd feel comfortable writing, and I didn't feel comfortable reading it.
BigTom
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On a page where the call to action is "join LCC to help everyone" ie: we know what we do isn't really what you do but you can help other cyclists when you join us.I found it, it’s a webpage specifically for affiliated cycling club members to join:
Affiliates Programme: Individual Club Member Offer Page | London Cycling Campaign
membership.lcc.org.uk
But you’d only get that if you were a member of a cycling club to begin with. A bit pathetic, isn’t it.
sleaterkinney
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BigTom
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chowce5382
So one on a page appealing to sports cyclists to join to help everyone ie non sports cyclists and one which is an offer from another company which is not LCC to LCC members.
How long did it take you to find those? How many pages and pictures did you trawl through?
Because the first one is not supporting the idea that LCC is for lycra clad cyclists, quite the opposite actually. The second is not LCC i think but you don't provide links for some reason so i can't check it out myself.
But even if they are LCC do you think two photos tucked away shows they are mostly lycra clad white men, when the vast majority do not and their board and employees are not?
So one on a page appealing to sports cyclists to join to help everyone ie non sports cyclists and one which is an offer from another company which is not LCC to LCC members.
How long did it take you to find those? How many pages and pictures did you trawl through?
Because the first one is not supporting the idea that LCC is for lycra clad cyclists, quite the opposite actually. The second is not LCC i think but you don't provide links for some reason so i can't check it out myself.
But even if they are LCC do you think two photos tucked away shows they are mostly lycra clad white men, when the vast majority do not and their board and employees are not?
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Who could possibly have predicted that?
Almost as if they’re just a bunch of self serving, lying, cunts.
liquidindian
Hello
It's also a photo from nearly a decade ago, from a "go dutch" ride calling for better cycling provision, part of which was so that cycling could be... more diverse.
If you don't want cycling to be more diverse, a good way to do that would be to campaign against changes that make it more accessible, maybe even go to court in an attempt to maintain the status quo.
If you don't want cycling to be more diverse, a good way to do that would be to campaign against changes that make it more accessible, maybe even go to court in an attempt to maintain the status quo.
BigTom
Well-Known Member
But i thought that onelambeth was just about the needs of disabled people and ensuring those needs are properly accounted for?
Oh.
And really fucking stupid as well, pure denialism. Are they even talking about solar panels? It's a heating system in that tweet that has been quoted.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
It’s well known that well-off middle classes put them on their houses to attract the sun and divert its rays from the poorer areas of London.
It’s almost like you can ignore everything they say, assuming you can understand it.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It's replying to this thread. Looks like they have put in solar panels and a heat pump system.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
As I pointed out already, cunts bring forth life and give enormous pleasure. They have warmth and depth. I think you’re being very unfair to cunts.
complaining about targetted harrassment from an account full of it, have to pity the dr really
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
They've lost the argument based on evidence, they've lost the argument on public opinion (according to repeated representative polls), they've been caught trying to game the consultation (when it wasn't a referendum in the first place). They know they'd lose at the ballot box if they put up any candidates. They might still win some small legal victory on a technicality, but that's not going to lead to LTNs being removed as their fundraising and even the posters outside the court suggest. So all they have left is their ongoing vitriolic bullying attacks (much of which are based on lies or just nonsense) , on politicians, organisations and individuals they identify as publicly supporting a change in the status quo. And even the family and friends of people on their mad conspiracy chart.
But this, in the middle of a stream of abusive tweets is pure Alanis.
(image removed as in post above)
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BigTom
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And also into climate change denial by the looks of that, given what jordan peterson was replying to.
Yep he’s a climate change denier. Tell us again how chowce5382 how we should be engaging with these people.
chowce5382
Active Member
The board looks pretty white and male dominated to me….I understand that’s this isn’t entirely representative of the current board as the guy circled had to leave because of his racist views. I don’t know if they replaced him with another white male or not.
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It isn’t representative of their board at any time. Where are you getting these from? Is there a Onesie’s shared folder of LCC conspiracy theory images somewhere?
This obsession is truly bizarre for someone solely focussed on the legal aspects! It explains your rant at Windrush Sq though.
It’s a cut and paste from this nonsense London Cycling Campaign does not reflect London’s ethnic makeup
I really hope this goes through
BigTom
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So instead of going to LCC and seeing who is actually on their board of trustees, you've decided to repost a random blog... and provide no link becuase you are ashamed of your sources and don't understand google reverse images searches I would assume. No other reason to not provide a link that I can think of.
Board of Trustees - London Cycling Campaign
www.lcc.org.uk
There aren't photos but based on names and making assumptions about gender/race from that:
chair - woman, white but Celtic clearly so wouldn't have been white just a few decades ago. Shows how dodgy ideas of race are really.
Vice - Male, white
Treasurer -male, white
HR - male, white
BCC - male, white
Polciy forum - female not white
Campaigns - male, again celtic
Diversity - male not white
other two - female, Sarah probably white, pearl is a very common afro-carribean name (In Birmingham anyway) so no assumptions there.
10 positions, 9 people. Of those 9 people, 5 are male and 4 are female. If we go position it's 60/40. This is definitely an acceptable ratio, especially given that there are only 9 or 10 places here depending on how you want to count them. It's not exactly 50/50 but there's no way you can say it's mostly men.
Ethnicity we've got 2 or 3 who are not white, so that's 20% - 30%, which is well below the overall London population ratio quoted in your article but as they've clearly lied about who is on the board of trustees for LCC I wouldn't be trusting their figure of 40%. Perhaps if I lived in London I would have a feel as to whether that is reasonable or not. if it's 30% omn the board to 40% in London then really that's not far off. All they need to do is have one more BAME person on their board and they will be matching the general population.
So no, this is not evidence in support of LCC being mostly white males, and there's no suggestion of lycra here.
Now lets have a look at their employees.
Meet the Team - London Cycling Campaign
www.lcc.org.uk
22 positions. 6 Women, not good but still ~30%, would need 5 more women to be equal. ethnicity is more difficult, depends where eastern european names fall, 3-6 ethnic minorities may be also ~30% and not that far off (2 more I think). Note that the chief exec is not white which does not suggest a white dominated organisation, usually you find lots of BAME/women at the bottom and then you look at the top and it's all white men - not the case here. Again no evidence of lycra here.
I would not call a 70/30 split mostly men (majority yes but mostly would suggest somewhere closer to 90% to me, almost no women, which is not the case at all) and the ethnic mix is really quite close to the general population being only two people on the "wrong" side of the line.
And bringing up the fact that LCC took action against the person making dodgy tweets on their personal twitter feed makes you look terrible again because your organisation's twitter feed is actively anti-semitic and apparently climate change denying as well. Why are you the treasurer of an anti-semitic climate change denying organisation and don't you think that either the person running the twitter feed should resign or you should leave the organisation? Otherwise you are supporting these things and saying your organisation is all good with anti-semitism and climate change denial. LCC did not support their person and took action over it - what would you want them to have done, and why won't you take even an ounce of the amount of action they did? You continue to support the person running your twitter feed and refuse to take action against them. Who comes out looking worse about this kind of thing?
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beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Careful now, don’t go muddying the waters here with factsSo instead of going to LCC and seeing who is actually on their board of trustees, you've decided to repost a random blog... and provide no link becuase you are ashamed of your sources and don't understand google reverse images searches I would assume. No other reason to not provide a link that I can think of.
Here is the actual board as it is today:Board of Trustees - London Cycling Campaign
There aren't photos but based on names and making assumptions about gender/race from that:
chair - woman, white but Celtic clearly so wouldn't have been white just a few decades ago. Shows how dodgy ideas of race are really.
Vice - Male, white
Treasurer -male, white
HR - male, white
BCC - male, white
Polciy forum - female not white
Campaigns - male, again celtic
Diversity - male not white
other two - female, Sarah probably white, pearl is a very common afro-carribean name (In Birmingham anyway) so no assumptions there.
10 positions, 9 people. Of those 9 people, 5 are male and 4 are female. If we go position it's 60/40. This is definitely an acceptable ratio, especially given that there are only 9 or 10 places here depending on how you want to count them. It's not exactly 50/50 but there's no way you can say it's mostly men.
Ethnicity we've got 2 or 3 who are not white, so that's 20% - 30%, which is well below the overall London population ratio quoted in your article but as they've clearly lied about who is on the board of trustees for LCC I wouldn't be trusting their figure of 40%. Perhaps if I lived in London I would have a feel as to whether that is reasonable or not. if it's 30% omn the board to 40% in London then really that's not far off. All they need to do is have one more BAME person on their board and they will be matching the general population.
So no, this is not evidence in support of LCC being mostly white males, and there's no suggestion of lycra here.
Now lets have a look at their employees.
Meet the Team - London Cycling Campaign
22 positions. 6 Women, not good but still ~30%, would need 5 more women to be equal. 6 ethnic minorities also ~30% and not that far off (2 more I think). Note that the chief exec is not white which does not suggest a white dominated organisation, usually you find lots of BAME/women at the bottom and then you look at the top and it's all white men - not the case here. Again no evidence of lycra here.
I would not call a 70/30 split mostly men (majority yes but mostly would suggest somewhere closer to 90% to me, almost no women, which is not the case at all) and the ethnic mix is really quite close to the general population being only two people on the "wrong" side of the line.
And bringing up the fact that LCC took action against the person making dodgy tweets on their personal twitter feed makes you look terrible again because your organisation's twitter feed is actively anti-semitic and apparently climate change denying as well. Why are you the treasurer of an anti-semitic climate change denying organisation and don't you think that either the person running the twitter feed should resign or you should leave the organisation? Otherwise you are supporting these things and saying your organisation is all good with anti-semitism and climate change denial. LCC did not support their person and took action over it - what would you want them to have done, and why won't you take even an ounce of the amount of action they did? You continue to support the person running your twitter feed and refuse to take action against them. Who comes out looking worse about this kind of thing?
BigTom
Well-Known Member
Careful now, don’t go muddying the waters here with facts
pfft. you can prove anything with facts, I prefer to rely on instinct and blind prejudice.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
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