chowce5382
Active Member
But you could talk to him and engage. If you don’t want or you can’t. Also, using eugenics as a reason probably isn’t bright
Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
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Isn’t bright!? It’s fucking offensive.
liquidindian
Hello
The guy was happy to stand up in a council meeting and misrepresent the wording in a council report to claim that traffic had gone up on a road when it had actually gone down. Is engaging him with some convincing evidence going to help? It hasn't worked with you.
chowce5382
Active Member
Of course it is. There are some great Labour politicians who were huge fans of eugenics.
? Starting to think your opposition to LTNs is more political than anything.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
This is the guy who has an eviction company and denies systematic racism?.
And who also wants an LTN for his bit of Clapham? (Page 11)
This narrative of private roads with million pound houses shows how much these people know about our areas. Pretty sure Cristo lives on an actual private road while lots of the roads in our ward are made up of houses divided into flats, a lot of which are social housing eg. Leander Rd.
While prominent LTN opponents are also buy to let landlords - some whilst actually living in social housing.
While prominent LTN opponents are also buy to let landlords - some whilst actually living in social housing.
Ignorant & offensive.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
Cristo. Thatcher worshipping shock jock who lives on a road with no through traffic because it was closed off by a post war estate and thinks it’s fine to buy your way onto a quiet road but doesn’t think anyone else should have one. An odd ally for OneLambeth.
chowce5382
Active Member
At the beginning, the counsel said it was all about covid. Then it wasn’t about covid/sorry, not covid
chowce5382
Active Member
I’m not sure that’s the best attack given that prominent LTN councillors live in LTNs too. If you’re going to savage anyone for living in an LTN and benefiting from it, you should probably start with the people who instigated the policy in the first place
liquidindian
Hello
And back round we go to previously debunked talking points, but sure engagement and debate is worthwhile.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
Is this really what got your back up? Just read the Lambeth transport strategy. This did not come out of the blue. It’s not being done for a single reason - it addresses a whole range of objectives. It’s about a transition to a lower carbon city, air quality, improving life outcomes by increasing physical activity, increasing transport capacity. Yes, there were elements that helped with Covid (and need for people to avoid public transport and not switch to private car or cab) but the plans predate that and it was never solely about that.
Now maybe the messaging didn’t try to communicate all of that at once but people do tend to respond best to simple messaging. Hands face space.
liquidindian
Hello
Kudos for being bothered to explain it yet again, but I'm sure it must be performative ignorance by now.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
I live on Ferndale and all the accounts and occasional videos don’t ring true to me. There is the odd beeping and disagreement but this is a street that is not designed for 2 way traffic and always has been. IMO it has been quieter since the LTN has been introduced. 5:10 this evening:
www.urban75.net
liquidindian
Hello
I'm impressed that Lambeth Council predicted COVID but they could have warned us.
chowce5382
Active Member
Engagement should always help. After all, weren’t you just advocating I do exactly that by “educating” people? I’m now confused as to what you actually think
chowce5382
Active Member
At the beginning it was specifically a reaction to covid, that’s also where the funding came from. That it has now been adapted to address a whole range of other things is a different matter.
chowce5382
Active Member
No, it’s legal. That’s why its at the court of appeal and why I’m not standing or interested in standing. If my stance was political I’d have taken a political route rather than a legal route
liquidindian
Hello
Not me, Chuck. I'm the guy that thinks there's no evidence or argument that could ever shift you or your mates' opinions. I do believe the bit about you being confused, though.
chowce5382
Active Member
Ok, fine with that.
You can tell yourself what you want. Pretty sure it’s some anti-council/Labour hang up going by your comments on here.
chowce5382
Active Member
Nope, it’s legal Ed. I haven’t gone against the council on anything else. It really is about disabled people. It’s personal for me.
This is why there’s no point in engaging with some if you won’t accept facts even when shown evidence (again & again). Note the start date of this thread.
Jesterburger
Well-Known Member
Wandsworth results:
2006: Tories 59, Labour 9
2010: Tories 45, Labour 13
2014 Tories 41, Labour 19
2018 Tories 33, Labour 26
Labour are very much on trend to take Wandsworth if this trend continues
BusLanes
Pedestrian
Oh sure, the trend is good in that regard, but on the other hand, Wandsworth is also getting more socially cleansed as well.
Wandsworth, if anything, is more of a one party state than Lambeth is. At least Lambeth has had someone not Labour in charge in the last 20 years
she seems to have a front-row seat on a public court room feed, if she stands by what is being posted on the official twitter account why not put her name to it?
sam cooray is quoted in at least 7 newspaper articles on the subject.
chowce5382
Active Member
Regarding the tweets you had to resign over…I take it your point above means that you would not only say exactly the same thing now but would also say it in person to the BAME community. You’re effectively standing by your position. Good to know
erm - is this on?
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