How do you feel about calling LTNs “ethnic cleansing”?
Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
- Thread starter teuchter
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chowce5382
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You’ve asked me this exact question before. I’ve said on a few occasions that is not language that I would use for a number of reasons but primarily that I’m a student of history and understand what that phrase means and can contextualise it.
You can go back to the previous conversations we’ve had about this.
Well you might want to share your views & educate some of the people you just mentioned. It also doesn’t seem the issue is just about disability rights for them if they’re using that phrase.
chowce5382
Active Member
Who did I just mention that I need to educate? I don’t hold out much help of educating adults.
I wouldn’t like to name them here but it’s a small group so I’m sure you can find out.
chowce5382
Active Member
BusLanes
Pedestrian
Having lived in Wandsworth I don't think Conservatives are likely to lose. People seem happy to vote Labour at Westminster and Conservative at council. Labour also just won a by election by Balham/Streatham by one vote a few weeks back, where last two times they easily won it. Although I guess that predates Party gate
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
I’d not take much from that by-election result. 21% turnout vs 46% in 2018.
national polls are looking very different to 2018 right now, and even to the position in November.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
But can see why it’s considered in play
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
googled Sam Cooray and looks like she’s a Paediatrics Doctor. Not a good look.
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thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
Was just trying to help out as whatshisname had always said he’d no idea who in the tiny OneLambeth group was dealing with the social media. Happy for the mods to remove so long as they’re consistent and take out all the other personal stuff across this thread and Buzz. But I’ve not said anything nasty about her.
In any case, Sam was happy to put herself out there as a onesie spokesperson and be photographed at the court, posting her photo on the OneLambeth twitter. This just connects the dots and I’m a strong believer that you shouldn’t say anything online that you’d not say in person (though accept many of us may have said things that we don’t actually believe in anger or to get a reaction at times).
In any case, Sam was happy to put herself out there as a onesie spokesperson and be photographed at the court, posting her photo on the OneLambeth twitter. This just connects the dots and I’m a strong believer that you shouldn’t say anything online that you’d not say in person (though accept many of us may have said things that we don’t actually believe in anger or to get a reaction at times).
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BusLanes
Pedestrian
Oh sure but compared to 2018 Labour has better polling but so far as I can tell from local Labour pals they won't have the volunteers.
I used to go via Clapham Junction in 18 quite regularly and it was quite impressive how much effort Labour threw at the election. I remember once walking past a car park where there were hundreds of volunteers getting fired up by Owen Jones. I don't think that this is likely to happen again.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
The enthusiasm for Corbyn got Labour groups a huge number of feet on the ground. But he was such a polarising figure I suspect Corbynite door knockers weren’t likely to convert many wavering Tory voters.
BusLanes
Pedestrian
Oh sure but raw numbers has a power of its own.
I did some canvassing one local election for a Labour pal and it having hundreds of people knocking doors of identified Labour voters seemed to work
chowce5382
Active Member
Strong response Ed. Given you’ve mentioned them you could follow up. If you don’t want to, fine.
chowce5382
Active Member
If you were to talk to him, he’s decent and willing to have a sensible debate. Whether you want to or not is another matter and up to you
liquidindian
Hello
I imagine he's willing to have a debate, sure.
chowce5382
Active Member
So, he’s willing to talk a about the issue. Is that good or bad?
liquidindian
Hello
A wee chat with the guy who described a couple of traffic management schemes as "eugenics" until he was told to take the post down? I don't think I'm going to pick "good".
I have talked to him - he denied climate change was a thing
Anyone that uses the word woke is a fucking idiot (and probably a bigot).
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It's fairly clear that chowce5382 has decided he's not going to get drawn into criticising or defending the one Lambeth Twitter account. I think we can assume that he knows who it is, or would be able to find out. From this we can all draw our own conclusions. The fact that the various people arguing on that side are not all comfortable with each other's positions doesn't necessarily detract from the arguments behind any of those positions, but it does give me confidence that they don't collectively represent anything that amounts to a majority view, and that the opposition to the LTNs comes from a smaller portion of the population than might sometimes appear to be the case.
If there were a large number of people with a strong argument then I think we would see them, and they would be distancing themselves from the kind of stuff that's been posted on that Twitter account, because there would be enough people not wanting their names to be associated with it.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Not my experience when I tried it once some time back under my real name on Facebook. He's disengenous and evasive. Maybe he was just having a bad several days though.
DM sent though don’t think you do care.
chowce5382
Active Member
For what purpose?
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