Are they actually local residents ?
Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
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Are they actually local residents ?
Feel someone should tell whoever’s behind this website how to write a headline.
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Blocked-off roads: THE WORLD TURNED UPSIDE DOWN – Anger at new cycleways between Brockwell park and Gipsy Hill: Cyclists will be able to turn left and right from Rosendale Road into Thurlow Park Road. Northbound vehicles will be banned from turning r
“How do you get out of Rosendale Road then?” asks one resident Plans to install a cycleway from Brockwell park to Gipsy Hill are causing major anger on social media. Proposals include b…
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hiraethified
According to an anti LTN commentator on Buzz, the slow speed of buses in London is entirely down to LTNs.
She hasn't managed to produce any proof for this claim, but it must be true because LTNs.
www.brixtonbuzz.com
She hasn't managed to produce any proof for this claim, but it must be true because LTNs.
Local event celebrates the use of cargo bikes for the school run
Have you noticed a new type of bike whooshing past? It may have a couple of kids tucked in a bucket at the front, or holding on at the back? Maybe a pet dog or a pile of flat packed flowers? If so,…
www.brixtonbuzz.com
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
there doesn't seem any correlation between boroughs that have put in a lot of LTNs and cycleways and those that have done nothing. the biggest falls are definitely in boroughs that have done next to nothing.
I reckon bigger cars is probably the main issues if seeing slower speeds without increase in traffic or other changes. And measures to make the place safer for pedestrians will have an impact as well - more crossings and longer crossing times are going to slow average trips times a bit. And 20mph will have had some impact.
I reckon bigger cars is probably the main issues if seeing slower speeds without increase in traffic or other changes. And measures to make the place safer for pedestrians will have an impact as well - more crossings and longer crossing times are going to slow average trips times a bit. And 20mph will have had some impact.
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
If an average bus speed of say 10mph drops by 8% that means it becomes 9.2mph.
A 4 mile (eg Brixton to central London) bus journey at 10mph would take 24 minutes and a 4 mile bus journey at 9.2mph would take 26 minutes.
Just to keep things in proportion - regardless of the cause.
A 4 mile (eg Brixton to central London) bus journey at 10mph would take 24 minutes and a 4 mile bus journey at 9.2mph would take 26 minutes.
Just to keep things in proportion - regardless of the cause.
According to an anti LTN commentator on Buzz, the slow speed of buses in London is entirely down to LTNs.
She hasn't managed to produce any proof for this claim, but it must be true because LTNs.
Local event celebrates the use of cargo bikes for the school run
Have you noticed a new type of bike whooshing past? It may have a couple of kids tucked in a bucket at the front, or holding on at the back? Maybe a pet dog or a pile of flat packed flowers? If so,…
It was shared in the Lambeth wide anti-LTN WhatsApp group. They're also claiming Fenstanton & Holy Trinity primary schools closing down is because of the Tulse Hill LTN!!
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hiraethified
Hey, how do you think Trump got in?
It was shared in the Lambeth wide anti-LTN WhatsApp group. They're also claiming Fenstanton & Holy Trinity primary schools closing down is because of the Tulse Hill LTN!!
Fucking LTNs.
snowy_again
Slush
That's ShimanoSteve of onelambeth etcAccording to an anti LTN commentator on Buzz, the slow speed of buses in London is entirely down to LTNs.
She hasn't managed to produce any proof for this claim, but it must be true because LTNs.
Local event celebrates the use of cargo bikes for the school run
Have you noticed a new type of bike whooshing past? It may have a couple of kids tucked in a bucket at the front, or holding on at the back? Maybe a pet dog or a pile of flat packed flowers? If so,…
Sheila?
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
The tool on this site lets you look at performance of individual routes. The ones I’ve looked at which use a load of LTN boundary roads seem to be improved since the LTNs went in.According to an anti LTN commentator on Buzz, the slow speed of buses in London is entirely down to LTNs.
She hasn't managed to produce any proof for this claim, but it must be true because LTNs.
Local event celebrates the use of cargo bikes for the school run
Have you noticed a new type of bike whooshing past? It may have a couple of kids tucked in a bucket at the front, or holding on at the back? Maybe a pet dog or a pile of flat packed flowers? If so,…
London's slowest buses: which ones are they?
London buses are the slowest they’ve been in at least ten years, with recent average speeds of just 9 mph, according to analysis of TfL data.
www.selondoner.co.uk
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hiraethified
What site is this please?
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
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thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
Yes, it may well just substitute for previous spending and not be incremental but it doesn't feel like thats completely the case in Lambeth as their transport and kerbside work seems greater than other boroughs - they're self funding stuff while other boroughs remain reliant on TfL. Anything that is a substitute frees up more money for other services - which is exactly what Nagapie seemed to be asking for.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
Moved from Brixton chat post
Who are these un-named residents? where are they commenting? Amongst whom are these views a 'consensus'? What makes you think their views are representative of of locals (as you don't seem to live there?)
The plans are here: Tulse Hill Low Traffic Neighbourhood. (I googled for "Elm Park LTN plans" - perhaps you should have done that before commenting on a scheme you seem to have some ill informed third hand information about)
It looks unfinished because it IS unfinished - like every other scheme theres a gap between the build contractors and it being planted. and it probably needs to be planted at the right time of year. I'm not a gardener - do you plant stuff at the start of winter or in spring?
Despite being repeated vandalised (the trees were broken off twice, it was driven over, plants were stolen) and all the naysaying of the usual suspects, Shakespeare Road looked wonderful over the summer -
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I live nearby and am part of a local group chat that includes a few roads including Elm Park, their residents commented. I did say it was what I had heard.
Yes maybe I should have been more informed but I was happy to have these queries put right. I do think it looks nice, or will once it's finished. I actually thought the point was to make it nicer to pedestrianise it, which would have been better imo.
My issues lie with Lambeth spending and upkeep. Now people have said this is not coming out of social care budgets, which are still experiencing ongoing and savage cuts, I have no worry about Lambeth misspending, a phenomenon not unknown at all.
So what's your issue, I should have been more informed? Well isn't part of the message board's remit to clarify and correct information.
Fair enough - maybe you can go back and correct the people who misinformed you.
I can.
Tbh they didn't misinform as such, they had the figures for the work and no information about where the money came from. So while I can set them right, that was a query we all had.
I don't know why they cared about the chairs facing in if it's not pedestrianised, that's probably just one or two people being particular.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
The rest of the temporary planter filters in Tulse Hill and Streatham Hill being properly done.
love.lambeth.gov.uk
love.lambeth.gov.uk
Love Lambeth
Lambeth Council is making permanent improvements to make Tulse Hill a safer, healthier and more sustainable neighbourhood for all, especially local children, the vulnerable and the elderly.
love.lambeth.gov.uk
Love Lambeth
Lambeth Council is implementing permanent upgrades to the Streatham Hill Low Traffic Neighbourhood.
love.lambeth.gov.uk
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
And Brixton Hill LTN being made permanent.
love.lambeth.gov.uk
Love Lambeth
Lambeth Council's Brixton Hill Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) scheme has had transformative effect.
love.lambeth.gov.uk
And Brixton Hill LTN being made permanent.
Love Lambeth
Lambeth Council's Brixton Hill Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) scheme has had transformative effect.
It’s transformed Brixton hill - traffic much improved
Yes - very little outrage about this - presumably because of very low car usage locally which highlights that opposition is pretty much only from drivers that are slightly inconvenienced and should be ignored.
It'd be good if anyone would argue the case against LTNs here but most urbanites are sensible so unlikely.
There isn’t one, in inner London.
Plenty of the usual stupid comments on this Buzz article. It'd be great if they bothered to join this thread to actually have to argue their point.
www.brixtonbuzz.com
Lambeth Council moves to make Brixton Hill Low Traffic Neighbourhood a permanent fixture
Lambeth Council’ say that their Brixton Hill Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) scheme has had a “transformative effect on traffic volumes, air quality, and safety in the area.”
www.brixtonbuzz.com
Plenty of the usual stupid comments on this Buzz article. It'd be great if they bothered to join this thread to actually have to argue their point.
Lambeth Council moves to make Brixton Hill Low Traffic Neighbourhood a permanent fixture
Lambeth Council’ say that their Brixton Hill Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) scheme has had a “transformative effect on traffic volumes, air quality, and safety in the area.”
They are all nonsense Ed, just ignore them.
Alex
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
Opinion: Why won’t Lambeth Listen? Reflections on the Brixton Hill LTN
We recently published a piece about how Lambeth Council intends to make the Brixton Hill Low Traffic Neighbourhood a permanent fixture. A reader called Will sent us in such a detailed comment on th…
www.brixtonbuzz.com
Either these people are stupid or they know what they're claiming is nonsense and say it anyway. You can't just add up all the increases at different count points on the same road and claim theres that much more traffic. If you did the same for the reductions inside the LTN (on Lyham Road) you'd get a figure greater than the number of vehicles before the scheme. That's clearly ridiculous.
I know it's flagged as 'opinion' but a smidge of fact checking before publishing stuff that's clearly nonsense doesn't seem too much to ask.
Traffic hasn't 'gone up by 8000 on the A205' - at any point it's maybe gone up by around 3000. but thats within the variation over the years anyway looking at the DFT count point there
Road traffic statistics - Manual count point: 46789
I can't even work out which numbers they added together to claim 'Brixton Hill has gone up by 2146' but they've clearly just ignored the count that shows a reduction...
garrybattman
New Member
I live in Brighton terrace and work in portslade rd just off Wandsworth rd when I travel to work in the morning my journey takes me nine minutes when I commute home the journey takes 20 minutes or more because I can not use the same routes because of the restrictions Brighton terrace has only one way of brixton road, I can no longer go into concanon rd because of the ltns it's absolutely perfectic I have to sit in 15 minutes of traffic on acre Lane just polluting the air like all the other motorists why can't we have cameras monitoring the residents cars that pay for permits it is totally ridiculous and just a money making scheme for Lambeth and labour
teuchter
je suis teuchter
20 minutes is faster than that journey would take for anyone without a car so I think you really don't have much to moan about.
