Not just Brixton - it's a pattern I've noticed getting worse cycling all over London. I put it in the same pot as littering - once enough people do it, it becomes normalised.What is it with so many car drivers not bothering to indicate in Brixton?
Just don’t get how they can’t be bothered. Really highlights the selfishness of so many drivers!Not just Brixton - it's a pattern I've noticed getting worse cycling all over London. I put it in the same pot as littering - once enough people do it, it becomes normalised.
With regard to this issue - I am partially deaf, which can be a problem with pavement cyclists coming up behind.It happened to me again this morning before 9.00 am.
As I approached the Coldharbour Lane/Atlantic Road junction going towards Brixton the pedestrian green light came on and the BEEP BEEP BEEP warning started.
Before I could step out a chunky young Chinese male cyclist - about 25 I should say - shot out in front of me and did a hard left turn into Coldharbour Lane.
Is light jumping in front of pedestrians in Brixton like "scoring" then? Cyclists maybe think it's 'OK' because everybody does it - and anyway cycling is a good thing?
And of course there is no fixed penalty notice camera which will issue a ticket to a cyclist (yet). I was reading on a cycling website that jumping a red light IS an offence which theoretically carries a £50 fixed penalty.
Minor point and not a criticism but cyclists seem to get lumped in to a group in a way that drivers don’t.Is light jumping in front of pedestrians in Brixton like "scoring" then? Cyclists maybe think it's 'OK' because everybody does it - and anyway cycling is a good thing?
And of course there is no fixed penalty notice camera which will issue a ticket to a cyclist (yet). I was reading on a cycling website that jumping a red light IS an offence which theoretically carries a £50 fixed penalty.
Also cyclists get given agency but drivers get depersonalised.Minor point and not a criticism but cyclists seem to get lumped in to a group in a way that drivers don’t.
Maybe, but doesn’t really make sense especially as cars are so so much more of a danger to pedestrians.Maybe we hold cyclists to a higher standard, knowing that they are vunerable to vehicles and should consequently be more careful of pedestrians. It's therefore more disappointing when some fail to distinguish between red and green.
On similar lines...a 'car crash'. Nope, cars can't crash themselves.Also cyclists get given agency but drivers get depersonalised.
"I nearly got hit by a cyclist" vs. "I nearly got hit by a car"
You can't see much of a driver behind glass, but most cyclists are right there at eye level.
I think it’s more likely that more people are/know drivers than are/know cyclists, therefore cyclists are easier to “other”. And everyone is a pedestrian at some point.Maybe we hold cyclists to a higher standard, knowing that they are vunerable to vehicles and should consequently be more careful of pedestrians. It's therefore more disappointing when some fail to distinguish between red and green.
When I'm on a bike, my default assumption is that pedestrians have the right of way. Isn't that the law nowadays? Should be!Again, I would agree that cyclists should stop at red lights and zebra crossings; it’s a no brainer especially in such a pedestrian heavy area. Though also IME, that area is notorious for pedestrians wandering in the street outside the crossings without looking. I try and avoid cycling down it for that reason and when I do it’s incredibly slowly so I can stop for said pedestrians, but if there is any cyclist/ped altercations around there I suspect that’s part of it.
Though I don’t actually recall him talking about verbal abuse to peds. Maybe the cat was looking particularly photogenic then.
Funny you mention Railton Road. It almost felt deadly to cyclists at times due to a minority of dangerously speeding drivers who would pass far too closely. I’ve found it much safer as an LTN but someone on here said it still happens.
That’s my assumption as well.When I'm on a bike, my default assumption is that pedestrians have the right of way. Isn't that the law nowadays? Should be!
Unfortunately most tend to speed up!As motorists should do to cyclists.
It is now. The Highway Code was updated in 2022 but it seems few drivers, unless they passed their test since then, are aware of it. From the RAC website...When I'm on a bike, my default assumption is that pedestrians have the right of way. Isn't that the law nowadays? Should be!
When I'm on a bike, my default assumption is that pedestrians have the right of way. Isn't that the law nowadays? Should be!
Saw a well known anti-LTNer parking in the middle of the Brixton Sainsbury’s car park when there were plenty of marked bays available.
Really highlights how selfish these people are and why we need measures like LTNs to keep our streets save.
Towards the side next to a marked pedestrian path but plenty of marked bays free so presumably just couldn’t be arsed to perm properly.Actually in the middle of the car park, they just left it in the middle of the car park ?
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Is he not semi disabled or something? Were there disabled bays available?Towards the side next to a marked pedestrian path but plenty of marked bays free so presumably just couldn’t be arsed to perm properly.
You’re obviously reading the wrong Facebook groups. I live very close by and the antis are very much out on the local Facebook group and a couple of WhatsApp groups I’m on. They’re shouting into the void though. Fuck em. Several of them also complaining about School Streets being dangerous as well. My kids school is on a school street and there’s still a lot of agro with people driving and parking irresponsibly. The teachers on gate duty regularly get abuse from drivers. People’s entitlement around cars is so odd.West Dulwich LTN begins on 2nd September - doesn’t seem to be much opposition presumably because normal people realise they are good things now (and Twitter is swamped by other right wing weirdo conspiracies to bother much about minor traffic changes now).
All the opposition seems rather ridiculous now - but there’s nothing more aggrieved than a driver who’s slightly inconvenienced to make things better for others!!
It's so predictable. The usual suspects, whatever they might claim, object to any motor vehicle controls at all - here conflating/confusing consultation on controlled parking hours with other West Dulwich area changes. NO consultations are 'votes' and a lot of Railton submissions were excluded because they were identical and submitted en masse in the early hours of the morning from the same IP address Smart council officers outsmart attempts to game consultationsYou’re obviously reading the wrong Facebook groups. I live very close by and the antis are very much out on the local Facebook group and a couple of WhatsApp groups I’m on. They’re shouting into the void though. Fuck em. Several of them also complaining about School Streets being dangerous as well. My kids school is on a school street and there’s still a lot of agro with people driving and parking irresponsibly. The teachers on gate duty regularly get abuse from drivers. People’s entitlement around cars is so odd.