Brixton Hill monitoring report published.
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Lambeth Council has published data compiled since the launch of the Brixton Hill low traffic neighbourhood trial.love.lambeth.gov.uk
Massive reduction in speeding in the LTN.
Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists
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Massive reduction in speeding in the LTN.
BigTom
Well-Known Member
Similar kind of story where I am:
‘I won’t ever talk to them again’: How the low traffic neighbourhood divided Kings Heath
Missing bollards, broken friendships and a police investigation
www.birminghamdispatch.co.uk
Someone claimed ambulance was delayed but this reporter found that it was on a 2 hour call out time (lowest priority) and got there in 13 minutes.
Lambeth Brixton Hill LTN monitoring report shows ‘a significant fall in traffic volumes’
Lambeth Council has published data showing a significant fall in traffic volumes and the number of motorists breaking the the speed limit since the launch of the Brixton Hill low traffic neighbourh…
www.brixtonbuzz.com
Bus Stopped
Active Member
First time I’ve used the bus since the LTN was suspended as been working from home for various reasons. It just breezed through.
Whatever the rights and wrongs the LTN clearly had a big impact on buses.
Whatever the rights and wrongs the LTN clearly had a big impact on buses.
sparkybird
ask the bird...
Good news that bus journey times have improved!
Inside the suspended LTN traffic is back, but not (yet?) at pre LTN levels.
I was thinking that maybe some drivers did change their habits OR it only takes a small amount of extra traffic on the High Road to really mess up the buses.
I been told that TfL are looking at implementing bus priority measures as a priority before the LTN can be reinstated.
Bus Stopped
Active Member
That’s interesting as it means there is a fine balance and measures like filters etc could work. The car traffic was also flowing easily as well.
I’m not sure how true it is, but a neighbour told me that the trees on Valley Road aren’t so green yet.
That video was taken before the LTN was implemented.
Cat Fan
Cats and stats
I suppose that's why they preface it by saying "this is why we started six years ago".
It's also taken during the school run, perhaps, so arguable if it's representative of normal conditions, or if other measures (school streets) could address the problem.
Short video clips on social media are never the best data to go on
It's also taken during the school run, perhaps, so arguable if it's representative of normal conditions, or if other measures (school streets) could address the problem.
Short video clips on social media are never the best data to go on
sparkybird
ask the bird...
No the video was taken last Thursday.
sparkybird
ask the bird...
There is already a school street at that location, which is why the LTN is needed.
Drivers were mounting the pavement that day to squeeze themselves through. Never mind the primary school kids walking on them.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
What is it that happens to peoples minds when they get behind the wheel of a car?There is already a school street at that location, which is why the LTN is needed.
Drivers were mounting the pavement that day to squeeze themselves through. Never mind the primary school kids walking on them.
Road closures: Workers facing knives, machetes and guns
Highway workers are having to "dive for cover" after being threatened by drivers over lane closures.
www.bbc.co.uk
sparkybird
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a few years ago there were some extensive Thames Water works in my neighbourhood, meaning that a street was closed for a few months. I used to chat most days to the workers as it was on my way shopping. They told me they frequently got threats from drivers including death threats.What is it that happens to peoples minds when they get behind the wheel of a car?
Road closures: Workers facing knives, machetes and guns
Highway workers are having to "dive for cover" after being threatened by drivers over lane closures.www.bbc.co.uk
I don't know how they carried on
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
Streatham anti LTN bid visits Brixton on a bank holiday Monday, when most places are closed, and blames it on the LtNs.
story
Changing the facts
It’s true that the LTNs made a huge difference to the fortunes of the shops etc on that section of Railton Road. But so did a lot of other factors, most especially the lockdowns. It’s really hard to say what difference the LTN changes made as a single factor.
People used to drive through there and make quick stops to shop, jump back in the car and away. So much so that the parking attendants just stopped bothering to check that section during the busiest times (after school pick up, mostly) cos they’d just get into enormous blazing rows with people who were making quick stops.
I live at the top end of Brixton Hill. Since New Park Road and surrounding areas have had the LTN measures introduced, NPR is gridlocked for about an hour every work day during rush hour. It hasn’t gotten better like it has in other areas as things settled down. It’s a run through from Brixton Hill to the South Circular and I can’t see it being less busy ever cos they can’t restrict traffic going through there . It’s shit for locals.
People used to drive through there and make quick stops to shop, jump back in the car and away. So much so that the parking attendants just stopped bothering to check that section during the busiest times (after school pick up, mostly) cos they’d just get into enormous blazing rows with people who were making quick stops.
I live at the top end of Brixton Hill. Since New Park Road and surrounding areas have had the LTN measures introduced, NPR is gridlocked for about an hour every work day during rush hour. It hasn’t gotten better like it has in other areas as things settled down. It’s a run through from Brixton Hill to the South Circular and I can’t see it being less busy ever cos they can’t restrict traffic going through there . It’s shit for locals.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
They could have, but chose not to. It's a sanctioned shortcut, by TfL request IIRC. Lambeth wanted it closed off.
Have to suspect this was to make the Brixton hill initial implementation chaos less bad, and they’d plan to do it.
Alex
sparkybird
ask the bird...
It's completely unfair that TfLs inability to manage it's own road network means they can dump on NPR, which is Lambeths.
Residents have my sympathy
sparkybird
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is there a timeframe for inclusion in the LTN? Unless measures are put in place to reduce the need to keep NPR as 'part' of TfL road network, how will the situation ever change?
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
The main thing I notice about Railton Road now is the absence of dangerous driving. Cars used to really speed down that road, pass far too close etc. That’s completely stopped IME.
The main thing I notice about NPR now is the increase of dangerous driving, or at least selfish and inconsiderate driving. Not speeding because as you say it’s gridlocked, but stubborn reluctance to pause to let school children cross.
I cycle to the Rec at about 6.45am, back ant 8.30ish and the traffic which remains along Railton still is very aggressive towards cyclists. You can get cars parked on both sides, I cycle in between them, remaining on my side of the road, and a car or van often comes in at speed, forcing me right against the parked cars.The main thing I notice about Railton Road now is the absence of dangerous driving. Cars used to really speed down that road, pass far too close etc. That’s completely stopped IME.
The main thing I notice about NPR now is the increase of dangerous driving, or at least selfish and inconsiderate driving. Not speeding because as you say it’s gridlocked, but stubborn reluctance to pause to let school children cross.
They should probably remove some parking as well as restricting traffic in the area. Not allow parking on both sides of any stretch.
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
Agree about Railton - it's so much better.The main thing I notice about NPR now is the increase of dangerous driving, or at least selfish and inconsiderate driving. Not speeding because as you say it’s gridlocked, but stubborn reluctance to pause to let school children cross.
What times of day is this and where are the issues? It's not felt busy at all when I've passed through and most of the traffic should be in one direction which you'd have expected to lead to less congestion. The stage 1 monitoring traffic counts show
- eastern end increased from 3600 to 4200 vehicles per day average
- western end decreased from 4900 to 3300
At peak times no-one would let you cross the road before anyway (there should have been a zebra outside the school at the very least - ideally a few along the road)
Attachments
Torpid Scorpion
Basket case
I make this the third election in a row in which the ant-LTN, anti-ULEZ, pro-car people have been slaughtered.
When will they learn?
Not soon, I reckon.
When will they learn?
Not soon, I reckon.
BusLanes
Pedestrian
The People Have Spoken, the Bastards?
thebackrow
Considerably more Brixton.
Its beautiful - the anti's moved from 'vote them out', 'vote for this candidate', 'a vote for labour is a vote for the return of the Streatham LTN' straight to 'only 40% of people even bothered to vote' when the results came in.
The perfect referendum on the Streatham LTN and Lambeth councils policies - no wider implications beyond a single councillor per ward. Decent turnout for a local election because it was also the mayorals. And the independent anti-LTN candidate got just 210 votes in Knights Hill. Total vote share of the candidates who'd made opposition to the LTN their main campaigning focus under 20% in both wards - in line with the all the representative polling that's taken place.
That should be, once and for all, the end of any narrative that there is anything but a small angry minority of local residents opposing the LTNs.
The perfect referendum on the Streatham LTN and Lambeth councils policies - no wider implications beyond a single councillor per ward. Decent turnout for a local election because it was also the mayorals. And the independent anti-LTN candidate got just 210 votes in Knights Hill. Total vote share of the candidates who'd made opposition to the LTN their main campaigning focus under 20% in both wards - in line with the all the representative polling that's taken place.
That should be, once and for all, the end of any narrative that there is anything but a small angry minority of local residents opposing the LTNs.
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
The only good thing about that long winded, paranoid, evidence free “some of my best friends are cyclists” drone was the cat giving him evils and then licking their bottom.
I agree that cyclists should stop at red lights and zebra crossings, as pretty much all cyclists I know think as well. I’m not sure why he needs 4 1/2 minutes to say that though, nor why congestion is due to mythical cyclists with four Ferraris rather than the majority of people who choose to drive.
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