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Had another fun time at the Prince Albert karaoke bash last night. It's back on Sun 15th and will - thanks to popular demand - be going weekly in late November.

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Does anyone know what happened to Sea Garden, which was in Market Row? Went there a couple of times and really liked the food. Just saw on google that it's permanently closed, though they're still going in Tooting. I did wonder if they could make it work there. There's not that much passing trade in the spot where they were.
 
jstanley said:
Does anyone know what happened to Sea Garden, which was in Market Row? Went there a couple of times and really liked the food. Just saw on google that it's permanently closed, though they're still going in Tooting. I did wonder if they could make it work there. There's not that much passing trade in the spot where they were.
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Never seemed that busy and you are right about footfall. I worry for new restaurants that spend a lot of money upfront on outfitting kitchens and fixtures with new stuff. I walk through the village every day and see it happening time and again. Some spots just seem to be jinxed as well with a new concept every 12-18 months.
 
felonius monk said:
Never seemed that busy and you are right about footfall. I worry for new restaurants that spend a lot of money upfront on outfitting kitchens and fixtures with new stuff. I walk through the village every day and see it happening time and again. Some spots just seem to be jinxed as well with a new concept every 12-18 months.
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And some make little sense in the first place.
 
madolesance said:
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i recall going in here as they had just opened as the food was half price. It wasn't much to shout about, even at that price.

Seems surprising that a pubco doesnt take on this site and make a go of it, as the nighttime economy in Brixton seems buoyant enough to me. Of course, rather than a neighbourhood boozer, the likelihood is that it would specialise in late night cocktails and 'small plates' which would just make it another boring bar i wouldn't use.
 
editor said:
You have to admire the chutzpah of these new entrepreneurial types: they get their customers to give them £12,000 to set up shop, and then they charge £6 for a loaf of bread!
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It's crazy. This form of crowdfunding can be great but sometimes it's just people who can't run a business or refusing to give up on a business that isn't working - I get it, that can't be easy - and getting customers to foot the bill. There was one near me who did multiple crowdfunders and the long and short of it was they just weren't paying their rent and needed the cash. Not on.
 
pbsmooth said:
It's crazy. This form of crowdfunding can be great but sometimes it's just people who can't run a business or refusing to give up on a business that isn't working - I get it, that can't be easy - and getting customers to foot the bill. There was one near me who did multiple crowdfunders and the long and short of it was they just weren't paying their rent and needed the cash. Not on.
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I've seen a few examples online where it's just a couple of middle class bearded wankers with a marketing spiel asking for money to set up some sort of coffee or bread shop, but if people are stupid or rich enough to give them free money then I almost don't blame them for trying.
 
jimbarkanoodle said:
I've seen a few examples online where it's just a couple of middle class bearded wankers with a marketing spiel asking for money to set up some sort of coffee or bread shop, but if people are stupid or rich enough to give them free money then I almost don't blame them for trying.
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true. it's the naive and not-so-rich donors I feel sorry for.
 
editor said:
You have to admire the chutzpah of these new entrepreneurial types: they get their customers to give them £12,000 to set up shop, and then they charge £6 for a loaf of bread!
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Suspect their unit costs are high they have low volume plus very high electricity and ingredient costs. Prices at Aries on acre lane are about the same.

Gail’s sourdough is 4.2 for 650g, fiver for an 800g sourdough is about the same as that.

You can’t really complain about too many chains with one breath, and then complain about the price of indies with the other.

Alex
 
alex_ said:
Suspect their unit costs are high they have low volume plus very high electricity and ingredient costs. Prices at Aries on acre lane are about the same.

Gail’s sourdough is 4.2 for 650g, fiver for an 800g sourdough is about the same as that.

You can’t really complain about too many chains with one breath, and then complain about the price of indies with the other.

Alex
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Oh right. So no independent business should ever be criticised for their prices or their lack of affordability because they're independent.

Gotcha.
 
ONS have inflation on a loaf of bread at 27% since January 2021.

I suspect the biggest issue here is that 27% of something expensive is a lot more than 27% of something cheaper.
 
Things will almost always be more expensive in an independent though. Not suggesting I'd pay 6 quid for a loaf of bread, but it is a dilema; wanting to support local and independent traders vs. the affordability of the big chains and their bulk buying power.
 
alex_ said:
Are their prices significantly higher than other similarly sized retailers ?
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Have you ever paid £6 for a load of bread?

Nearby Blackbird Bakery charges nowhere near that amount for their delicious Brown Sourdough Bread - and they haven't blagged £12k off the customers for the privilege of buying it off them.
 
editor said:
Have you ever paid £6 for a load of bread?

Nearby Blackbird Bakery charges nowhere near that amount for their delicious Brown Sourdough Bread - and they haven't blagged £12k off the customers for the privilege of buying it off them.
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How much does blackbird bakery charge ?

I couldn’t find any prices online other than aries whole grain - 4.9.

I don’t fully agree with the crowdfunding thing, it feels a bit exploitative.
 
alex_ said:
How much does blackbird bakery charge ?

I couldn’t find any prices online other than aries whole grain - 4.9.

I don’t fully agree with the crowdfunding thing, it feels a bit exploitative.
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I can't remember their shop price (which is presumably cheaper) but you can their Brown Sourdough Bread for £3.80 here.

Have you ever been charged £6 for a load of bread? Do you think that's a rip off?
 
DietCokeGirl said:
Things will almost always be more expensive in an independent though. Not suggesting I'd pay 6 quid for a loaf of bread, but it is a dilema; wanting to support local and independent traders vs. the affordability of the big chains and their bulk buying power.
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You can usually find something between the ludicrously priced stuff and the mega brands though (although that gets more difficult when a place gentrifies, so you're left with the ridiculously priced posh stuff and the supermarket bargains, while all the small traders are priced out).
 
editor said:
I can't remember their shop price (which is presumably cheaper) but you can their Brown Sourdough Bread for £3.80 here.

Have you ever been charged £6 for a load of bread? Do you think that's a rip off?
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I’ve seen bread which costs more than 6 pounds, you can’t really say if it’s a rip off without knowing what it costs to make and what other places charge.

What is the approved price for a hand made sourdough loaf at a small retailer in Brixton ?

( blackbird bakery make their bread for their 12 branches on an industrial estate in Norwood )
 
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alex_ said:
Suspect their unit costs are high they have low volume plus very high electricity and ingredient costs. Prices at Aries on acre lane are about the same.

Gail’s sourdough is 4.2 for 650g, fiver for an 800g sourdough is about the same as that.

You can’t really complain about too many chains with one breath, and then complain about the price of indies with the other.

Alex
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Decent multigrain loaf in Lidl acre lane; less than a quid. Still a 60p loaf (white or brown) avail too.
 
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