I wasn't passing judgement but I live near that row of shops and there's already two other coffee shops there and one that sells bread and I see businesses start and finish a lot down there.
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I'm partial to a Lidl 'sourdough' boule too. £1.79 for 400g when I was last there - so that's £3.58 for an 800g family loaf equivalent. It's still a yeasted industrial bread that has been nicely shaped and flavoured though.
Just checked the Waitrose site and they sell Gail's genuine sourdough loaves. The 650g loaves start at £4.15.
I'm boring myself with this now...
Epona
Sonic: 1 Nov 2006 - 8 Jan 2022
I'd rather volunteer at a food bank or homeless shelter making sure people didn't go hungry than sell "artisan" loaves to people who can afford to buy whatever they like. (And I do a lot of volunteering in my own, similarly poor, borough).
Just a fyi, sourdough bread has always up until recently been peasant bread that people could make easily and very cheaply - I'm tired now of it being an expensive artisan product. It's not, it's still peasant bread that people can make easily and very cheaply.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Re this argument on sour dough bread - I have a friend who gets free food hand-outs at Clapham - then decides I've got to eat his sourdough bread - which I think is vile actually.
Well last week I bit into a slice of this "healthy" bread with crust like tarmac - and one of my teeth broke off!
I am off to the dentist shortly on other matters - but quite possibly this £4 a loaf healthy bread may cost me much more than that to sort out - even at NHS rates.
PS anyone wanting free sourdough from M & S or Waitrose, seems the place to go is in a back-street near St Mary's Catholic Church Clapham.
You definitively won't see me up there!
Well last week I bit into a slice of this "healthy" bread with crust like tarmac - and one of my teeth broke off!
I am off to the dentist shortly on other matters - but quite possibly this £4 a loaf healthy bread may cost me much more than that to sort out - even at NHS rates.
PS anyone wanting free sourdough from M & S or Waitrose, seems the place to go is in a back-street near St Mary's Catholic Church Clapham.
You definitively won't see me up there!
The conversation isn't really about sourdough for me - it's just a product being mentioned for sake of comparison. I agree it's not for everyone or for every occasion. I'm more making the general observation that we've become so habituated to cheap mass-produced food that any kind of traditionally-made bread is now seen as a premium 'artisan' product. It's not the same in other countries, including some close European neighbours.
I'm getting old. I can go on similar rants about the point when camping or swimming became 'wild camping' and 'wild swimming'. No doubt many other subjects too.
sure, they buy a baguette every day in France - made on-site, obviously - but it costs probably less than a euro.
Ms T
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It's not proper sourdough though. I am a smug baking sort who makes my own but I have had the Lidl stuff and it doesn't compare with the kind of bread you get from a proper bakery, made with decent quality flour and nothing else other than salt, water and a sourdough starter (which is just flour and water, essentially). And even at Lidl, bread flour has doubled in price.
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
I was reading an article in the Times the other week about small artisan bakeries which have people queuing out of the door and regularly sell out by lunchtime. Posh bread is big business!
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
The sourdough ones cost more than that. Admittedly not what you pay at Gail's or similar! I do think the sourdough baguettes here are eye-wateringly expensive!
Ms T
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Ms T
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I don't think most people find bread that easy to make.
Table Wolf
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Well, I knew that would be the reaction here. 
I will add:
I will add:
- The supermarkets are still there if you want cheap bread.
- The prices are closer to £4 than £6.
- The unit was empty before the bakery moved in.
Table Wolf
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New restaurant on Coldharbour Lane:
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This seems to be the unit where Nanban used to be. The new owners seem to have gone big on the "former eel and pie shop" narrative.
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This seems to be the unit where Nanban used to be. The new owners seem to have gone big on the "former eel and pie shop" narrative.
sorry but that doesn't make sense to me. people buy a baguette every day. they're still around a euro. nobody buys loaves of bread in france.
Maybe the pain de campagne, pain au levain, etc have gone extinct due to the difficulty in clamping them underarm while cycling with a string of onions.
editor
hiraethified
I'm not against authentic artisan products, even though it is a word bandied around way too freely when gentrification rolls into town.
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
Boulangeries in France sell all kinds of bread, including loaves! Pain de campagne for example. Or pain aux noix.
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hiraethified
I wonder when the cocktail bar bubble in Brixton will finally burst. I'm surprised to see her expanding her empire because I've never seen Wood and Water very busy (unless I'm always passing by during its lean periods).New restaurant on Coldharbour Lane:
SideChick mixes cocktails and American soul food in an old Brixton pie and mash shop | Hot Dinners
SideChick comes from April Jackson, owner of Wood and Water and who you might have seen on The Apprentice and more TV besides.
Josh Barrie On the Sauce at SideChick: Meet me at the pool
SideChick, from former Miss Jamaica April Jackson, offers fine cocktails, a homely vibe, and the lesser-spotted pool table
This seems to be the unit where Nanban used to be. The new owners seem to have gone big on the "former eel and pie shop" narrative.
The prices are definitely £6 or closer to that. I've been in a few times and left without trying the bread. If she decides to sell them in half loaves some time, I might have a go because they do look lovely.Well, I knew that would be the reaction here.
I will add:
- The supermarkets are still there if you want cheap bread.
- The prices are closer to £4 than £6.
- The unit was empty before the bakery moved in.
editor
hiraethified
It's good to get a wide range of honest reactions from the community, no? Maybe it might spur her on to offer discounts for OAPs/people on income support etc.Well, I knew that would be the reaction here.
I will add:
- The supermarkets are still there if you want cheap bread.
- The prices are closer to £4 than £6.
- The unit was empty before the bakery moved in.
Eric Jarvis
Well-Known Member
However. Artisan does not mean "we burnt it a bit" which seems to be the usual definition.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
TopCat
Putin fanboy
How much does a loaf cost you to make?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Then keep it on show till a mug comes along. Hence brittle crusts and lost teeth.
It was the law until 2008 that loaves of bread had to be sold in multiples of 400g. Now it's just the convention that a large loaf is 800g. Odd sizes are indeed available too.
RoyReed
Must fly!
The Old Post Office Bakery on Landor Road was like that when John and Richard were still running it, often people queuing and some bread sold out by 11.00am. I've not seen that since the new people have taken over, and now they're only open three days a week for pre-ordered collection. I hope they'll be fully open again soon.
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