I'd rather joing the KSA
Britain should rejoin the EU...
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I'd rather joing the KSA
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
IIRC the king of Norway is 60-somethingth in line to the throne of Britain, so we'd only need to collect 60-odd heads to create a Norway-UK superstate.
Raheem
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All we need is a ten-year internet campaign saying that it would be the fulfillment of biblical prophecy.
philosophical
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The thread title says ‘Britain’, but theoretically at least it is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland that the majority of those voting in the 2016 referendum said should leave the European Union.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
It would probably be for the best but there is no way this country is going to rejoin the EU until there is a new generation of political leaders in Westminster. There is no way it can be presented as other than a humiliating climbdown by the current lot whichever side of the House they're on. Whilst rejoining is probably inevitable at some point (with or without our tails between our legs) it won't be for a good many years yet.
The fact that ANYONE considered this was even remotely likely or indeed even remotely possible is the one Leave argument that I found the most bizarre.
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If you're going to count invented arguments literally nobody made then surely you could come up with plenty more bizarre than that.
mojo pixy
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What, than rejoin the EU?
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
Was about to post a similar reply.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
The people who said that Brexit would come with free ice cream for everyone and that it would instantly cure cancer lied to me. They lied goddammit. They don't exist, but still they lied 
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Why? did people not advance the idea that leaving the EU was the Left's big chance to reform society? I can't imagine that more than 0.00001% of the electorate voted for it but the idea was certainly out there.
Feel free to find an example of someone who thought leaving the EU would result in socialism.
Or have you fallen back on the astonishing fact that some left wing leave voters thought there was an opportunity for a left wing government? Seeing as they weren't that far off getting one that doesn't seem to score highly on the bizarre charts either.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
The biggest disservice the Brexit referendum did was to polarise people into two stupid extremes: that the EU is all that is good and holy, or that leaving the EU is all that good and holy.
The question asked was “Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?” There were all sorts of reasons for picking one or the other that did not require magical thinking.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
You've just agreed with me that Lexit was a thing, where we disagree is that it was even remotely a possibility. The 2017 election is going to be dragged out for years in an attempt to prove it was rather than a referendum on how useless and disliked May was.
Agreed. there are many reasons people voted the way they did and I wouldn't presume to know them all. However based on my own survey of why people voted Leave (not as many as YouGov) but still a decent sample by now.
The main reasons I can see for people voting Leave are:-
1. Too many foreigners.
2. I read something on the side of a bus
3. The economy and job prospects around here are shit and I need someone to blame them on in the probably vain hope things will get better.
4. I wanted to stick 2 fingers up to Dave Cameron and the rest of the ruling elite (the one that makes most sense)
5. Leave gives us the chance to sign our own trade deals and free ourselves from the shackles of Brussels (there are people who believe that and some of them are not people I'd call dumb)
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
How do you know?
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Excellent point Danny, it is of course my opinion based on my observations just as of course your opposing argument is based on your observations. But that is all this is a discussion of viewpoints between 3 people who cannot actually effect outcomes in any way.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
No, how do you know we disagree on whether Lexit was “remotely a possibility”? Neither of us in this discussion has yet defined what “it” was. Nor have you asked me my opinion.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
OK fair point what is your opinion?
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
On whether “Lexit was remotely a possibility”? I don’t yet know what you think it was. To me, Lexit was those who argued against EU membership from a left perspective. It was not, as you implied, an outcome. It was an anti EU argument from the left.
Ok since you're now reduced to quibbling over the precise reasons why a Labour Party committed to leaving the EU did reasonably well I assume you're conceding that your original claim that this was some impossibly bizarre idea is wrong. Glad we got there in the end
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
I've never heard anybody who voted Leave say they did so because of whatever it was supposed to have said on the side of a bus.
It seems the bus had a far bigger impact on Remainers, who still seem traumatised by it.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Well we both know it wasn't an outcome, my definition of Lexit would be very similar to yours. People arguing against EU membership on the grounds that it was a neoliberal project and that there was quote "No Path To Socialism" inside the EU (can't remember who said that so apols if it was you). Fair enough I agree there was indeed "No Path To Socialism" (assuming that's what you want) inside the EU, it's just there is no path to it outside it either.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
she went in with a 20 point lead and got the biggest tory vote out since major iirc. Uniquely crap and disliked is a an invention that only became 'common sense' after 2019
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
I have and one of them was truly incensed by it when it dawned on them they had been lied to.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
I am not responsible for that quote, no. Nor do I agree that there’s “no path to socialism outside the EU”. Indeed, you seem dead set on concocting positions nobody holds.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
Again, I should point out that you’re still labouring under a category error. Lexit was not a goal, it was left wing opposition to the EU.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Most of us could demonstrate a poor degree of competency
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Oui, Non, Sacre Bleu, Mon Ami.
That's all I've got is it enough?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Pisspoor. What about deux bieres s'il-vous-plait, ou se trouve l'auberge, c'est combien pour deux bouteilles de vin, or j'ai oubliais mon argent?
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