BREXIT Crunch time (part 38) WTF is going to happen next?

[killer b]

This woman speaks for us all

She doesn't speak for me, I love an election.

 

[redsquirrel]

She doesn't speak for me, I love an election.

Likewise.

Amber Rudd, David Gauke, Greg Clark, David Mundell and Claire Perry given as Cabinet members that abstained.

 

[Poot]

This woman speaks for us all

She doesn't speak for Kuennsberg.

 

[mx wcfc]

 

[Puddy_Tat]

currently on the BBC website





I don't think they quite mean that

 

[redsquirrel]

Likewise.

Amber Rudd, David Gauke, Greg Clark, David Mundell and Claire Perry given as Cabinet members that abstained.

Surprise, surprise May not going to ask for resignations

Ministers who voted against the whip tonight will be expected to resign, those who abstain *will not*.

 

[Wilf]

I've been away for a couple of hours and just read a report on what they've done tonight and I, genuinely, can't understand it. What the actual fucking fuck.

 

[Pickman's model]

Surprise, surprise May not going to ask for resignations

Weak and wobbly

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

I've been away for a couple of hours and just read a report on what they've done tonight and I, genuinely, can't understand it. What the actual fucking fuck.

Could you share it, I’ve been asleep.

Or summarise. There’s 2 pages of what the fuck so it sounds juicy

 

[Fez909]

Could you share it, I’ve been asleep.

Or summarise. There’s 2 pages of what the fuck so it sounds juicy

This is the best layman's summary I've found so far

 

[redsquirrel]

Some of the ERG starting to wobble

 

[Argonia]

I've been away for a couple of hours and just read a report on what they've done tonight and I, genuinely, can't understand it. What the actual fucking fuck.

This is the first thing I've heard tonight that I can actually understand

 

[Wilf]

My head simply won't absorb where the fuck we are up to now, but presumably May will have another go at getting her shitpile through. That brings Bercow centre stage though as he was musing today about having a decision to make on whether to allow the same resolution to be put twice. He's obviously up for it as he's fucked May over a couple of times, but I doubt he's got the balls to do that. Has he?

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Surprise, surprise May not going to ask for resignations

Resignation doesn't really seem to be her thing does it.

 

[Wilf]

So, let's reduce this to something that simpletons like me can understand: which newspaper will be most apoplectic after tonight?

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

My head simply won't absorb where the fuck we are up to now, but presumably May will have another go at getting her shitpile through. That brings Bercow centre stage though as he was musing today about having a decision to make on whether to allow the same resolution to be put twice. He's obviously up for it as he's fucked May over a couple of times, but I doubt he's got the balls to do that. Has he?

Maybe she'll propose a resolution rejecting her own deal. On her current form that's probably its best chance.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

So, let's reduce this to something that simpletons like me can understand: which newspaper will be most apoplectic after tonight?

The Mail. It's always the Mail.

 

[Wilf]

The Mail. It's always the Mail.

The Express:

'DID DIANA HAVE TO DIE FOR THIS?'

 

[redsquirrel]

The Mail. It's always the Mail.

Nah Express. Mail has wound back to May loyalism.

 

[brogdale]

Eh?

Abstaining, rather than vote against what they believe to be disastrous for the country they presume to govern.

 

[danny la rouge]

Abstaining, rather than vote against what they believe to be disastrous for the country they presume to govern.

It was a pun. Sorry.

 

[brogdale]

It was a pun. Sorry.

Been down 'spoons!

 

[bemused]

Some of the ERG starting to wobble

I can't see her deal ever getting through even if all the ERG lined up behind it. At this point, if you are a loyal Tory MP who wants a soft Brexit why would lend your vote to that deal just being the ERG who've screwed your government into the dirt are shitting it that their WTO utopia is thing of the past.

 

[Wilf]

So, is May's gambit now reduced to 'vote for Shitpile 3 or I'll ask Jean Claude to make us stay in another year'? Is that where we are up to?

 

[Lord Camomile]

May was a Remainer, right? Has she in fact played a blinder?

Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need?

 

[Wilf]

By the way, when does Corbyn makes his ever so cunning lightining strike (inside or outside the house)? To be honest, there's more chance of Theresa Fucking May getting something through before he does that.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

there was a report somewhere this afternoon (which I now can't find) suggesting that there's some obscure parliamentary rule that government can't just bring back the same thing for another vote (yesterday was in theory at least deal mk 2) so they can't just have a repeat of the vote on the deal in the hope of getting it through at third attempt...

 

[Wilf]

there was a report somewhere this afternoon (which I now can't find) suggesting that there's some obscure parliamentary rule that government can't just bring back the same thing for another vote (yesterday was in theory at least deal mk 2) so they can't just have a repeat of the vote on the deal in the hope of getting it through at third attempt...

a 'self plagiarism' rule.

 

[redsquirrel]

I can't see her deal ever getting through even if all the ERG lined up behind it. At this point, if you are a loyal Tory MP who wants a soft Brexit why would lend your vote to that deal just being the ERG who've screwed your government into the dirt are shitting it that their WTO utopia is thing of the past.

Lack of other options, party loyalty, just wanting this to be over, etc. The "WTO utopia" isn't "a thing of the past" the motion passed tonight had no legal force.

there was a report somewhere this afternoon (which I now can't find) suggesting that there's some obscure parliamentary rule that government can't just bring back the same thing for another vote (yesterday was in theory at least deal mk 2) so they can't just have a repeat of the vote on the deal in the hope of getting it through at third attempt...

First the government argue that yesterday's vote wasn't the same as January's as the deal had changed. Second it's at the discretion of the Speaker. I don't see Bercow refusing another vote on May's deal under the current circumstance. And if he did, they'd make just enough (meaningless) changes to make sure it was a "new" matter being voted on.

 

[Plumdaff]

By the way, when does Corbyn makes his ever so cunning lightining strike (inside or outside the house)? To be honest, there's more chance of Theresa Fucking May getting something through before he does that.

In Parliament he said he will be holding cross party meetings to try to bring something to the house. Possibly Labour will try to get an indicative vote for a Norway plus type deal, with an extension to negotiate?