BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

[teuchter]

Part of the issue with private healthcare - as well as the fact that it reduces the proportion of the population who have an interest in keeping the NHS properly funded - is that it reduces the availability of those things with a finite supply to NHS patients - for example, doctors. There are many doctors who work in the NHS as well as privately on the side, but their private patients get much longer consultations. So private patients take up time that, if the doctor made themselves available to the NHS, could be used to see more people.

Of course, everyone who uses their private car when there's a public transport alternative is also a queue-jumper, and undermines the viability of a public service, in the same way as those who opt for private medical treatment, and I think it's good to keep this in mind when judging others' morals.

 

[ffsear]

A better solution would be for govenment to tax private healthcare.

I thought it is taxed ?

 

[butchersapron]

I thought it is taxed ?

At a rate that makes a substantive impact then.

 

[MickiQ]

"until we have one"
How does that even have a chance of happening with people opting for private healthcare and queue jumping??

Elect a government that is prepared to fund the NHS to the extent that queues are not long enough for it to be worthwhile for people to pay the extra cost of being in a private healthcare scheme.
People are in these schemes and see them as a benefit precisely because there are queues and they are concerned about how NHS shortages will affect them and their families personally.
One of my former colleagues had kidney problems and whilst he was happy enough with the dialysis he received from the NHS, kidney patients tend to be sickly anyway and being in the company scheme meant he got faster treatment for the many other problems that it made worse for him. Didn't save him in the end mind but you can't really say to someone in his position you can't take advantage of a scheme that will make your life a lot less painful because you need to show solidarity with people who haven't got this.
Any blame for NHS shortages and any solution lies exclusively in Westminster.

 

[ffsear]

At a rate that makes a substantive impact then.

Ok, but its only an insurance premium. People who have private medical care aren't footing the entire bill.

 

[MickiQ]

Doesn't private health care take people out of the NHS system, even though they still pay into it ?

No it in no way takes people out of the NHS and indeed most private healthcare schemes don't cover things like emergency care
The main benefits of being in a private healthcare scheme are not having to queue for non-urgent treatments or getting a nice room and fancy food in a private hospital and of course for most people a warm feeling of security and being more in control of your own destiny something most people put a very high premium on.

 

[ffsear]

No it in no way takes people out of the NHS and indeed most private healthcare schemes don't cover things like emergency care
The main benefits of being in a private healthcare scheme are not having to queue for non-urgent treatments or getting a nice room and fancy food in a private hospital and of course for most people a warm feeling of security and being more in control of your own destiny something most people put a very high premium on.

I agree mostly, but the pick and choose nature of private health care is problematic. Throwing all the pre existing conditions back into the NHS system.

 

[MickiQ]

I agree mostly, but the pick and choose nature of private health care is problematic. Throwing all the pre existing conditions back into the NHS system.

Agree totally, which is why private healthcare insurance is so cheap in this country all the realy problem cases are dumped on the public system, I had American colleagues (big American global corp) that could not grasp why I didn't think under $200 a month was a bargain when they paid $1000 for something that would cost them 10x as much if they bought it privately.

 

[Gramsci]

I've put the brixton forum on ignore. I was genuinely shocked last time i even looked in there. You're right though, i just can't face it because of time issues at the minute. I don't know how you gramsci and others can keep going at times.

Its why I started on U75. Urban was originally a Brixton website then expanded. I don't give up on it so far. As its important to me as I live in the srea. And its where U75 started. Though Ive been wondering if I can hack it much longer. Just had to deal with right wing post on gentrification this evening. Depressing.

 

[chilango]

And, you know, there is no such thing as Urban. There are individual posters and their numerous PMs of support...

 

[editor]

Its why I started on U75. Urban was originally a Brixton website then expanded. I don't give up on it so far. As its important to me as I live in the srea. And its where U75 started. Though Ive been wondering if I can hack it much longer. Just had to deal with right wing post on gentrification this evening. Depressing.

I feel your pain but a change is going to come.

 

[Dom Traynor]

I feel your pain but a change is going to come.

You should start a Lambeth politics forum.

 

[ViolentPanda]

And, you know, there is no such thing as Urban. There are individual posters and their numerous PMs of support...

MArgaret, is that you?

 

[SpamMisery]

I quite like brewdog. I like the 330ml size cans. A pint is sometimes a bit much, and those French beers are too small.

 

[butchersapron]

I quite like brewdog. I like the 330ml size cans. A pint is sometimes a bit much, and those French beers are too small.

What an interesting time to make your first post on the thread. Transparent shit stirrer.

 

[SpamMisery]

Im a lurker, occasional poster on this sub-forum, and currently drinking a can of Brewdog Indie. I noticed earlier today, the only other 330ml cans in the shop were Estrella. I thought it relevant.

 

[editor]

What an interesting time to make your first post on the thread. Transparent shit stirrer.

And a completely inane post at that.

 

[equationgirl]

Im a lurker, occasional poster on this sub-forum, and currently drinking a can of Brewdog Indie. I noticed earlier today, the only other 330ml cans in the shop were Estrella. I thought it relevant.

How is you liking their can sizes relevant on a thread about how shit brewdog are as a company and an employer?

 

[butchersapron]

How is you liking their can sizes relevant on a thread about how shit brewdog are as a company and an employer?

The point is to kick the editor in the ribs. That seems to be the only point of this brixton pricks forum existence.

 

[equationgirl]

The point is to kick the editor in the ribs. That seems to be the only point of this brixton pricks forum existence.

What a twat. Bit out of order that. Shame on you SpamMisery

 

[SpamMisery]

If someone's delicate enough to take someone else liking a particular beer can size as a "kick in the ribs", then the politics forum may not be for them.

 

[butchersapron]

Shit stirring cunt.

 

[equationgirl]

I don't even know why you post here SpamMisery, clearly you don't like it and just want to have a go at editor.

Please do the forum a favour and fuck off.

 

[Gramsci]

I don't even know why you post here SpamMisery, clearly you don't like it and just want to have a go at editor.

Please do the forum a favour and fuck off.

Spam enjoys this. Its what he came on Brixton forum for. And its not only directed at Ed.

 

[editor]

I don't even know why you post here SpamMisery, clearly you don't like it and just want to have a go at editor.

Please do the forum a favour and fuck off.

I'm banning him for a month for repeated clear breaches of the 'Don't be a dick' rule. I doubt if he will be missed.

 

[equationgirl]

I'm banning him for a month for repeated clear breaches of the 'Don't be a dick' rule. I doubt if he will be missed.

I 've taught graduates I work with in real life that rule. It's a good one.

 

[teuchter]

I 've taught graduates I work with in real life that rule. It's a good one.

It's certainly a handy one if you're the person enforcing it.

 

[alcopop]

It's certainly a handy one if you're the person enforcing it.

Quis custodies custodiet

 

[editor]

At least this thread is highlighting the kind of shit the Brixton forum has to constantly put up with. And alcopop is now banned from this thread.

 

[mojo pixy]

Quis custodies custodiet

I love it when people try to sound clever by using Latin and get it completely wrong