Brazil v Netherlands (3rd/4th Place Play-off) Saturday 12th July 2014

[Lord Camomile]

LAW 14 - THE PENALTY KICK
Introduction
A penalty kick is awarded against a team that commits one of the ten offences for which a direct free kick is awarded, inside its own penalty area and while the ball is in play.

That still doesn't answer the question of whether the foul must start in the penalty area.

 

[JTG]

That still doesn't answer the question of whether the foul must start in the penalty area.

The idea that just because a player falls into the penalty area, he should be given a penalty kick is a curious one tbh

 

[Silva]

David Luiz's world cup has to be one of the worst of all time.

He was MVP on quite some games - until the semi-final I think he was the highest ranked player along James.

 

[Maltin]

I think there's something in the rules about even if the foul starts outside the box, if the momentum carries them into the box then it's a penalty.

Not sure if that's exactly right, but almost certain it came up recently.

It's if the contact was made outside the box and continues in it, then it is a penalty. I'm not sure the contact continued inside the box.

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http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_12_fouls_misconduct_en_47379.pdf

 

[Lord Camomile]

The idea that just because a player falls into the penalty area, he should be given a penalty kick is a curious one tbh

It is, but like I say I'm sure I remember it being discussed in relation to another incident recently.

Since when did "I vaguely recall something" stop being accepted as a valid rebuttal?!

 

[JTG]

Ah I see. If the foul carries on being a foul in the area. Well, maybe. Wasn't really clear at the first mention

 

[Pickman's model]

It is, but like I say I'm sure I remember it being discussed in relation to another incident recently.

Since when did "I vaguely recall something" stop being accepted as a valid rebuttal?!

as soon as you started using it

 

[souljacker]

He was MVP on quite some games - until the semi-final I think he was the highest ranked player along James.

The last two games have been so bad, no-one will remember the other ones.

I feel quite sorry for the guy because I think he's a good player but he's been fucking awful in the last two.

He'll probably score any second.

 

[grubby local]

Oscar is trying, bless him, but Brasil have zero defence - and that against Robben and van Persie is a matter of time before 3,4 and 5.

 

[Pickman's model]

and hopefully 6 & 7

 

[Lord Camomile]

It's if the contact was made outside the box and continues in it, then it is a penalty. I'm not sure the contact continued inside the box.

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http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_12_fouls_misconduct_en_47379.pdf

There y'go! Aye, not sure it did continue, but I guess that's what the ref thought.

Dirk feckin' Kyut!

 

[JTG]

There y'go! Aye, not sure it did continue, but I guess that's what the ref thought.

Dirk feckin' Kyut!

That covers holding offences only - not watching the match so no idea if that's relevant

 

[Buckaroo]

RTE are shit but après match gang doing this. Funny as fuck.

 

[Lord Camomile]

That covers holding offences only - not watching the match so no idea if that's relevant

Fuck's sake! Yes, in this case it's relevant!

 

[JTG]

Fair enough. Your original point wasn't very clear tbh and I'm in work

 

[Favelado]

Some light relief. All you really need to know to understand this advert is that Guarana Antarcticais is to Brazilians what Irn-Bru is to Scots.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Some light relief. All you really need to know to understand this advert is that Guarana Antarcticais is to Brazilians what Irn-Bru is to Scots.

I'm surprised he agreed to do that! Maybe they offered to pay his tax bill.

 

[Favelado]

I'm surprised he agreed to do that! Maybe they offered to pay his tax bill.

He's not a man of morals is he?

 

[grubby local]

Long balls to nowhere. "It's just like watching England"

 

[Maltin]

I'm surprised he agreed to do that! Maybe they offered to pay his tax bill.

It's better than an advert about erectile dysfunction.

 

[Lord Camomile]

He's not a man of morals is he?

Aye, but he's Argentina's football god! I thought his national pride would be the one thing to trump cash - singing the Brazillian anthem in a Brazil shirt?!

 

[paulhackett]

Luiz is like Higuita minus the goalkeeping gloves. Show pony liability

 

[magneze]

Should have been a penalty.

 

[magneze]

No way back for Brazil without Fred. [emoji54]

 

[oryx]

stretcher cracks me up - it's like a cross between a fruit crate & an eco-coffin.

OH reckons Jo has had not one kick in entire game...

 

[Lord Camomile]

"a natural coming together"?! He clattered into his back and got nowhere near the ball!

 

[grubby local]

desperately sad team. If Argentina win here tomorrow things are gonna get proper gloomy

 

[Lord Camomile]

If this tournament hadn't been in Brazil... It would be a story, but it wouldn't be so crushing, knowing that this is likely to be the only chance to win it at home for a looong time.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Cillessen's now been subbed twice! I wonder what the record is for a 'keeper at a World Cup

 

[oryx]

Cillessen's now been subbed twice! I wonder what the record is for a 'keeper at a World Cup

I could not see the point in subbing Cillessen at all - unless it was to give the other keeper a chance of a WC game.