Brazil v Germany (Semi Final) Tuesday 8th July 2014

[Idris2002]

Next week I'm going to Dusseldorf - where I'm meeting a Brazilian colleague. That should be fun.

 

[Batboy]

I believe Brazilian fans gave a standing ovation to Klose, as well as to one of the German goals. So there were some positives there.

By the end of the game even the most devastated Brazilian fan had to applaud what they were witnessing from Germany, remarkable night.

 

[hipipol]

 

[friedaweed]

This one's my fav

 

[SpookyFrank]

On a less humorous note, an English contact on Facebook - someone with no Brazilian connections at all, btw - was yelling "FIX" at the end of this amazing match. He couldn't possibly be right, could he?

I doubt it. German morality is above reproach.

 

[editor]

Cruel, but - hey! - welcome to the kind of disappointments most football fans live with every week!

http://sadbrazilians.tumblr.com/

 

[girasol]

Fuck me, the DM is going on about 'Brazil's darkest hour', riots and mayhem.

This is by far not our darkest hour, perspective people! if only this was the worse thing that ever happened in Brazil

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sts-verge-crashing-tournament-agony-fans.html

There's none of this shit in the Brazilian press (well, the press I read). It will be a real shame if a right wing government gets into power because of this.

 

[malatesta32]

lots of subtle anti-german sentiment by those asshole commentators.

 

[Kaka Tim]

I think Brazil have got this far by sheer passion - driven on by the crowds, but also helped by favourable refs and some pretty brutal tactics. They have had to scrap hard and use all their reserves of emotion and effort - esp in the knock out stages. Every game was like a cup final.
Without Neymar and Thiago Silva they were already up against it and as soon as soon as the first goal went in they just seemed to collapse - all the fight drained out of them. They'd already shot their load agasint columbia and they had nothing left.
I suspect Sports psychologists will be looking at their abject capitulation for years to come.

 

[girasol]

Rio: 20 arrested, 1 death. The dead person was someone robbing a bus, shot at by the police - this is an almost daily occurrence, not caused by football, but by poverty. Other people arrested were also for attempted robbery.

One vehicle was smashed by a few people.

In Sao Paulo a few buses were set alight, in a bus garage. So very far from the mayhem suggested by DM...

This is more in tune with reality - as ever http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jul/09/brazil-mutiny-mourning-germany-world-cup-2014

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I think Brazil have got this far by sheer passion - driven on by the crowds, but also helped by favourable refs and some pretty brutal tactics. They have had to scrap hard and use all their reserves of emotion and effort - esp in the knock out stages. Every game was like a cup final.
Without Neymar and Thiago Silva they were already up against it and as soon as soon as the first goal went in they just seemed to collapse - all the fight drained out of them. They'd already shot their load agasint columbia and they had nothing left.
I suspect Sports psychologists will be looking at their abject capitulation for years to come.

This is pretty much my take too. A poor team that, without their best two players, fell apart. I'm glad Brazil lost. They would have been the poorest team to make the final since Argentina 1990.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Next week I'm going to Dusseldorf - where I'm meeting a Brazilian colleague. That should be fun.

Whatever you do, don't mention the score.

 

[Idris2002]

Whatever you do, don't mention the score.

I mentioned the score, but I don't think he noticed.

 

[Lord Camomile]

 

[Belushi]

I enjoy a bit of schadenfreude as much as the next man but the pictures of Brazilian fans just make me want to give them a hug.

 

[Idris2002]

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I think that picture's even sadder than all the pictures of little kids crying.

Did he give her it?

 

[butchersapron]

I enjoy a bit of schadenfreude as much as the next man but the pictures of Brazilian fans just make me want to give them a hug.

What on earth is wrong with you?

 

[Badgers]

 

[girasol]

Oh, I'm loving that Gaucho man with the white tache. I'm sure it was all done with a pinch of salt It's all part of the theater!

 

[Spymaster]

I think that picture's even sadder than all the pictures of little kids crying.

I get into trouble with the mrs for laughing at kids who cry at football matches.

 

[editor]

Have to admit I'm having trouble working myself into any sort of sympathetic lather over Brazil's 'plight.'

Let them taste the bitter tang of a humiliating defeat, just like most fans have to do.

 

[girasol]

I get into trouble with the mrs for laughing at kids who cry at football matches.

The little kids crying is sad, but they will get over it. I cried my eyes out when Brazil lost 2x3 to Italy in '82. Never forgot it, but got over it!

erm, and I said it before, Brazil has 'tasted defeat' many times, it's not like we win every tournament of game ever played Defeat is not a new concept to Brazilians

 

[belboid]

erm, and I said it before, Brazil has 'tasted defeat' many times, it's not like we win every tournament of game ever played Defeat is not a new concept to Brazilians

you've tasted it before, but I dont think you've ever had to taste it, vomit it back up, and then taste it again, before.

 

[girasol]

you've tasted it before, but I dont think you've ever had to taste it, vomit it back up, and then taste it again, before.

I don't think ANY TEAM EVER EVER had tasted it like this before in a world cup semi final, so we're pioneers on that one

In fact I'm pretty sure this is a historic defeat - so, erm, no team has been through this level of defeat in a world cup.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Have to admit I'm having trouble working myself into any sort of sympathetic lather over Brazil's 'plight.'

Let them taste the bitter tang of a humiliating defeat, just like most fans have to do.

Oh come on, it's not their fault they've had a really good team up until now! It's not like club football, where you have supporters who start 'supporting' a club once they get bankrolled into success. Just like the rest of us can't help the national teams we've been lumped with, neither can the Brazilians.

Ok, so they still got to the semi-finals and already have six stars on their shirts, but do you really begrudge them that? And I don't think Brazilian fans have been particularly objectionable in their success, have they?

I would have thought that most, having been there before, would be empathetic - if not sympathetic - with being on the end of a whipping. But, to be fair, have any of us fallen from such heights, so hard and fast? I mean last night was crushing in so many ways

I really do feel for 'em.

I don't think ANY TEAM EVER EVER had tasted it like this before in a world cup semi final, so we're pioneers on that one

Exactly. Last night was truly exceptional, really.

 

[Badgers]

The Germans will be disappointed if they only win the cup 3-0 or something

 

[editor]

Oh come on, it's not their fault they've had a really good team up until now! It's not like club football, where you have supporters who start 'supporting' a club once they get bankrolled into success. Just like the rest of us can't help the national teams we've been lumped with, neither can the Brazilians.

I'm Welsh. I know national team failure on a regular basis. Like, every fucking year or so.

As for Brazil, I like their fans, their style and I've mostly liked their football, but I've no problems with them getting acquainted with that losing feeling once in a while.

 

[editor]

I don't think ANY TEAM EVER EVER had tasted it like this before in a world cup semi final, so we're pioneers on that one

In fact I'm pretty sure this is a historic defeat - so, erm, no team has been through this level of defeat in a world cup.

Least you got to the World Cup, mumble, moan, grizzle.....

 

[friedaweed]

I think that picture's even sadder than all the pictures of little kids crying.

Did he give her it?

I would of Ohh er matron, fnar fnar, etc

Legs it