Brazil v Colombia (Quarter Final) Friday 4th July 2014
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Col_Buendia
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Even the lily-livered Beeb has ventured to print suggestions that the reffing wasn't all it should have been:
Col_Buendia
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Agree. Not defending a horrendous tackle, but the Colombian players were clearly losing the rag about the lack of protection they were getting. It was obvious it was going to "escalate".
ska invita
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do you think brazil started it? my impression was that there was 'tight marking' from both sides from the off, but i wouldnt stand by that
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
Hope it didn't ruin your birthday.
rekil
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Colombia are a good attacking side and it looked like Brazil went out to disrupt and intimidate them.
Col_Buendia
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They did. And it worked for them. At end of the day, people will remember the score and not the tactics. Shame really, they didn't show much inspirational football today.
Col_Buendia
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You're very kind, thank you. It has a bit, but there's a 2l bottle of rum here that is helping to take the pain away
ska invita
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Juan Zuniga who kneed Neymar is going to have to watch his back getting out of Brazil
Col_Buendia
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You know, it'd be nice if you came back and acknowledged you were a million miles wide of the mark with that suggestion. Plenty of people corrected you on it. Escobar was shot by the bodyguard of two prominent drug lords after a slanging match which turned sour. The bodyguard admitted it (shielding his bosses from further investigation) and served a prison sentence for the crime. It was the twentieth anniversary of his murder two days ago, and the country is quite sensitive about it. It's not hard to find the facts of the case. Escobar was adored here. Uninformed flippancy isn't all that welcome.
And of course, it's only in weird foreign places where people kill each other over football matters, isn't it?
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-20544531
savoloysam
Pigman's pigman's ha ha charade you are..
So much for "sexy spiritual football"
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
Pterodactyl
First clever thing he'd said all day....
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
Exactly right, I think. If you subtract all the pushing and shoving (Brasil may have got away with more but Colombia sure got their own back on Neymar) you get the same result on actual footballing performance. Colombia only lived up to recent form after the penalty. And the replay shows they were clearly, if only just, offside.
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5t3IIa
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It just looked like a fair-sized creature blah blah until it took off
it was the size of a flat cap!!
pocketscience
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To make that equation work, you'd need to subtract Fernandinho from the Brazil team after 30minutes. The bloke was guilty of a bit more than pushing and shoving. He was kicking shit out of Quadrado & James from the off. Didn't even get a Yellow.
It's a shame that Naymar has to be the victim of some kind of injustice here but I think that by starting the dirty physical game Brazil brought it on themselves somewhat.
Any injustice felt for Naymar should then to be afforded to Colombia. Or, looking at it the other way, Brazil got a big dose of instant Kharma (© Glenn Hoddle).
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Brazil were definitely up for aggro - and inevitably Columbia responded in kind. The ref seemed to be looking elsewhere and whistling whilst the teams carried out various attempts to cripple each other via ankle stamps and kneecappings. The brutal assault on neymar which has left him out of the world cup with a spinal injury was the end result.
The aggressive tactics worked for Brazil - columbia struggled to find their rhythm. In footballing terms Brazil were the better team and deserved to win. But this may be a pyrrhic victory with Neymar out and Thiago Silva (their best player on the night) suspended.
It was far from being a dull game - but I was hoping for some fast paced, attacking football with the likes of rodriguez and neymar being able to strut their stuff - rather than Leeds United vs Chelsea circa 1972.
The aggressive tactics worked for Brazil - columbia struggled to find their rhythm. In footballing terms Brazil were the better team and deserved to win. But this may be a pyrrhic victory with Neymar out and Thiago Silva (their best player on the night) suspended.
It was far from being a dull game - but I was hoping for some fast paced, attacking football with the likes of rodriguez and neymar being able to strut their stuff - rather than Leeds United vs Chelsea circa 1972.
ska invita
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Germany now official favs
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup#outrights
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup#outrights
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
You can get 66-1 on Costa Rica
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yep, exactly this. The ref was nothing short of pathetic last night, and Neymar's horrible injury, following a disjointed game full of fouls, was the result. I feel very sorry for Neymar, and there's no excuse for deliberately kneeing a player in the back, but yes, something of a pyrrhic victory for sure.
I do have a question that's been niggling me. Fred? He's even lost the splendid tache, for which I could forgive him a great deal. Sans tache, I just don't see any point to him.
ska invita
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i doubt it...theyre not really a team you get behind...its a bit like cheering on deep blue in a chess game
littlebabyjesus
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pocketscience
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I think the fact that Brazil turned up to play the cynical game speeks volumes about the faith of their own ability against this Colombia team.
On football terms, they knew beforehand they were on to a loser.
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
Don't disagree with any of that. In fact I think giving Fernandinho 30m is generous - he was a disgrace - and I don't really understand why T. Silva didn't get a red for that petulant and utterly pointless foul on Ospina. I understand why the ref would want to keep his hands out of his pockets as long as possible given the occasion, but it was clearly not working this time and if he'd responded to that faster, the last three quarters of the game might have been more pleasant viewing.
I still think Brazil looked slightly more coherent, and Columbia considerably less so, than in their games so far and if they'd all shown up with the kind of sportsmanlike attitude of Belgium v USA the other night I think we'd have seen a similar scoreline - so all the more frustrating that Brazil didn't go for a less cyncial win.
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