Boris's ban on alcohol on London Transport (with poll)

[twistedAM]

No, you have a little think about it. That's no sort of answer.

Are you one of these inner city kids the taboids go on about that think eggs grow on trees and therefore beer comes from Lake Artois?
It's common sense that something that takes longer to make costs more. Ingredients for soft drinks are just bunged together and some fizz added and they're ready to drink straight away whereas booze has to be brewed in several stages.

 

[TopCat]

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[littlebabyjesus]

There is hardly a freedom that exists that isn't abused by some group of people or other, but to involve the law in everything infantilizes adults even further, and diminishes rather than increases social responsibility.

Yes.

 

[Fruitloop]

Are you one of these inner city kids the taboids go on about that think eggs grow on trees and therefore beer comes from Lake Artois?
It's common sense that something that takes longer to make costs more. Ingredients for soft drinks are just bunged together and some fizz added and they're ready to drink straight away whereas booze has to be brewed in several stages.

The number of different guises in which sugary water is sold will be an enduring tribute to capitalisms malign ingenuity.

 

[TopCat]

Are you one of these inner city kids the taboids go on about that think eggs grow on trees and therefore beer comes from Lake Artois?
It's common sense that something that takes longer to make costs more. Ingredients for soft drinks are just bunged together and some fizz added and they're ready to drink straight away whereas booze has to be brewed in several stages.

I don't want to be rude but you are quite ignorant of both the brewing process and the construction of soft drinks.

 

[8ball]

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Tube Party has spontaneously vanished - glitch in teh matrix?

 

[untethered]

There is hardly a freedom that exists that isn't abused by some group of people or other, but to involve the law in everything infantilizes adults even further, and diminishes rather than increases social responsibility.

The problem lies in using the law alone as a means of social control. Sadly, in many cases it's all we've got left.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I don't know, I would guess that the whole manufacturing and distribution process for most mass-market alcohol and soft drinks would cost about the same per brand. If it was more to make alcohol, with the tax already being far higher and distribution outlets being restricted, it wouldn't be very economical for them to be sell at approximately the same price as non-alcoholic drinks. The profit per unit is tiny for both anyway.

 

[twistedAM]

I don't want to be rude but you are quite ignorant of both the brewing process and the construction of soft drinks.

Feel free to put me right. Im pretty sure I'm right unless volume and scale make lager cheaper but anyway it's all a bit of a distraction.

 

[TopCat]

Feel free to put me right. Im pretty sure I'm right unless volume and scale make lager cheaper but anyway it's all a bit of a distraction.

I have brewed and drank a great deal of beer and have also made lemonade etc. It's really quite funny to watch you assert your opinion about the expense given you have no idea of the brewing process at all.

 

[DotCommunist]

Feel free to put me right. Im pretty sure I'm right unless volume and scale make lager cheaper but anyway it's all a bit of a distraction.

yup. What does it matter if lager and soft drinks are priced about the same?

Unless the thought of people on low incomes enjoying a beer horrifies?

 

[Fruitloop]

Gotta keep those lower orders in line. They're savages, dotcha know.

 

[twistedAM]

I have brewed and drank a great deal of beer and have also made lemonade etc. It's really quite funny to watch you assert your opinion about the expense given you have no idea of the brewing process at all.

It's quite funny for you to assume I have no idea of the brewing process.
Anyway less of the point-scoring.
I can't see how it's more expensive to make a can of Coke than it is say, Kronenberg - one of the reason's why Coke is expensive is that the parent company charges a high royalty to local bottlers.

 

[DotCommunist]

How the fuck does one 'swig aggresively'


fuckwit he is

 

[twistedAM]

yup. What does it matter if lager and soft drinks are priced about the same?

Unless the thought of people on low incomes enjoying a beer horrifies?

This stupid tangent was raised when someone complained about soft drinks being as expensive as beer in pubs and I pointed out that they're the same price in shops as well. That's all really.

 

[DeadManWalking]

How the fuck does one 'swig aggresively'


fuckwit he is

That's exactly what wound me up so much, god it's only been two days and I'm fucking angry, even thought about leaving London!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It's common sense that something that takes longer to make costs more. Ingredients for soft drinks are just bunged together and some fizz added and they're ready to drink straight away whereas booze has to be brewed in several stages.

As an example of something that may not be so obvious, how much energy does this take? You assume this is self-evident, whereas it doesn't seem so to me.

 

[jæd]

I think you must have me confused with someone else. This is my first ID here.

Heh, that's what you said last time...

 

[twistedAM]

As an example of something that may not be so obvious, how much energy does this take? You assume this is self-evident, whereas it doesn't seem so to me.

I tried to find a nice little diagram on the net for soft drink production but best i got was this:

http://www.australianbeverages.org/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=ASP0002/ccms.r?PageID=10055

Which does seem quite simple compared to this:

http://www.energymanagertraining.com/distillery/Brewery_process.htm

I'd still bet on beer but I suppose the water purification and CO2 adds some costs to soft drinks

 

[TopCat]

Heh, that's what you said last time...

Who cares?

 

[Crispy]

Heh, that's what you said last time...

I said stop it.

 

[untethered]

How the f- does one 'swig aggresively'

One can do just about anything aggressively.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

 

[Fruitloop]

I sure hope they fine lots of Tory voters.

 

[DotCommunist]

One can do just about anything aggressively.

*aggressively weaves daisy-chains*

 

[Fruitloop]

<viciously darns socks>

 

[Crispy]

Think I'll huff the vapours then

 

[untethered]

*aggressively weaves daisy-chains*

You beast.

 

[CharlieAddict]

fuckin' rubbish rule!

on a hot summer's day and afterwork, i love drinking a can of beer on the tube. bah!

bollocks to this.

if you're gonna ban something, ban all food, chewing gum and drinks on tube.
it works in the countries that practices this. clean tube/trains. lovely traveling experience.

 

[King Biscuit Time]

What about if I'm getting a train to Sheffield.
Am I not allowed to crack into a can until I'm outside greater London?