BNP leader faces jail!!

[Random]

You know, after all these years of quoting Marx I cannot remember how to spell 'Feuerbach', that's the human part of me admitting imperfection, as it should be.

Tell me, in a world without pity
Do you think what I'm askin's too much
I just want something to hold on to
And a little of that human touch

A bit rich for an actual academic to tell other people off for being 'academic'.

 

[mk12]

The only people on here who've called Butchers a fascist are people who obviously feel bitter that he has destroyed their arguments over, and over, and over again.

 

[Random]

So coherent a position, people think he's a fascist?

I actually smiled at that; there, that's the human part of me admitting that. The cybord part of me sez nothing, though.

 

[TremulousTetra]

TBH I think 'coherent political positions' are a fallacy and an illusion, an imaginary holy grail if you like.

Infact, they are very often used by those without any base in the working class, those without any praxis, and without class struggle (and of course the IWCA is not class struggle). Outside of class struggle it is ALL worthless, 'a mere academic exercise' as Karl Marx said in the Theses on Feuerbach.

You know, after all these years of quoting Marx I cannot remember how to spell 'Feuerbach', that's the human part of me admitting imperfection, as it should be.

The Theses for those who want to know;
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/theses/index.htm

"Sectarian's are never wrong!!!!!!!!!"

 

[TremulousTetra]

The only people on here who've called Butchers a fascist are people who obviously feel bitter that he has destroyed their arguments over, and over, and over again.

Like who? Where?

 

[mk12]

You, Attica and this MrA.

 

[The Black Hand]

You have got to be kidding, self adjulating as well as pompous.
Don't tel me, you told a guy off once?

Quite.

If other ultra leftists want further evidence look at what newcomers are saying eg. the poster "Bippitybop"

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10181891&postcount=188

The experienced left politicos want a discussion 'their way', but open source doesn't do discussions like that.

What the ultra leftists apparently want is a closed bulletin board where they can rant off to each other and back slap each other till their hearts content.

Its bullshit folks. Old left shite that should have been in the dustbin of history in 1956, but still you arrogant fucks come out with the same old same old attitudes. It would be sad if it wasn't so tragic.

 

[JimW]

TBH I think 'coherent political positions' are a fallacy and an illusion, an imaginary holy grail if you like.

I'd agree, but the other side of the coin is spouting any old random bollocks is even less use.

Infact, they are very often used by those without any base in the working class, those without any praxis, and without class struggle (and of course the IWCA is not class struggle). Outside of class struggle it is ALL worthless, 'a mere academic exercise' as Karl Marx said in the Theses on Feuerbach.

You know, after all these years of quoting Marx I cannot remember how to spell 'Feuerbach', that's the human part of me admitting imperfection, as it should be.

The Theses for those who want to know;
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/theses/index.htm

And this is that sort of bollocks, coupled with the arrogance you have a go at others for - you get to say who's in the class struggle and who isn't? Who isn't imperfect? We all know we are; it's you who's attributing bad motives to someone else - a long-term anti-fascist who you've got the fucking cheek to imply is a BNP apologist. If that's your touchy-feely human approach, shove it up your arse.

 

[TremulousTetra]

A bit rich for an actual academic to tell other people off for being 'academic'.

Maybe but he was right, about all the sectarian conspiracy theory nutter's such as BA, VP, Pick etc.

 

[Pickman's model]

TBH I think 'coherent political positions' are a fallacy and an illusion, an imaginary holy grail if you like.

i'm glad you've found a coherent position in which you can believe, and which others have long suspected was your view.

 

[Pickman's model]

Maybe but he was right, about all the sectarian conspiracy theory nutter's such as BA, VP, Pick etc.

conspiracy theory nutter's? which conspiracy theory? which nutter?

 

[The Black Hand]

The only people on here who've called Butchers a fascist are people who obviously feel bitter that he has destroyed their arguments over, and over, and over again.

Rubbish. I haven't noticed anybody calling Butch a fascist. I Didn't. I suggested he could be mistaken for an apologist for the BNP, but that is not calling him a fascist. That is describing his approach to the BNP, which gives rise to people thinking he is a BNP supporter. That's his problem and his politics problem. Not mine.

 

[Random]

Maybe but he was right, about all the sectarian conspiracy theory nutter's such as BA, VP, Pick etc.

you're obsessed!

 

[Random]

Rubbish. I haven't noticed anybody calling Butch a fascist. I Didn't. I suggested he could be mistaken for an apologist for the BNP, but that is not calling him a fascist. That is describing his approach to the BNP, which gives rise to people thinking he is a BNP supporter.

Thinking, but not calling.

 

[Pickman's model]

You know, after all these years of quoting Marx I cannot remember how to spell 'Feuerbach', that's the human part of me admitting imperfection, as it should be.

nurse! the straitjacket!

 

[TremulousTetra]

You, Attica and this MrA.

I don't think MrA has stated BA is a fascist.

"Give me a link, or oppologise" as Napolean [BA] would say.

 

[butchersapron]

you're obsessed!

Nurse, the jews!

 

[The Black Hand]

i'm glad you've found a coherent position in which you can believe, and which others have long suspected was your view.

If you can't say anything you'd better not post.

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't think MrA has stated BA is a fascist.

"Give me a link, or oppologise" as Napolean [BA] would say.

now, about this conspiracy theory you mentioned, perhaps you could say some more about that.

 

[The Black Hand]

nurse! the straitjacket!

 

[Pickman's model]

If you can't say anything you'd better not post.

doctor, heal thyself

 

[TremulousTetra]

nurse! the straitjacket!

oh, fucking hell, it's the deluded one.

Go on, it's all the SWP's fault.

Is this one of those clown's who listen to you Napolean?

 

[Pickman's model]

Maybe but he was right, about all the sectarian conspiracy theory nutter's such as BA, VP, Pick etc.

returning to this post, could you explain it?

 

[The Black Hand]

The only people on here who've called Butchers a fascist are people who obviously feel bitter that he has destroyed their arguments over, and over, and over again.

Rubbish. All Butch has is ultra left shite, and not very convincing either, like a lot of the 'anarchist organisations'.

THe bigger problem is that you think he has, but that's your problem, not ours.

 

[Random]

because the gaaaaang's aaaaaaallll heeeeerrreeeee

 

[The Black Hand]

A bit rich for an actual academic to tell other people off for being 'academic'.

If the shoe fits

 

[TremulousTetra]

Quite.

If other ultra leftists want further evidence look at what newcomers are saying eg. the poster "Bippitybop"

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10181891&postcount=188

The experienced left politicos want a discussion 'their way', but open source doesn't do discussions like that.

What the ultra leftists apparently want is a closed bulletin board where they can rant off to each other and back slap each other till their hearts content.

Its bullshit folks. Old left shite that should have been in the dustbin of history in 1956, but still you arrogant fucks come out with the same old same old attitudes. It would be sad if it wasn't so tragic.

Fucking spot on! They've become, what they claim to detest.

 

[Pickman's model]

Maybe but he was right, about all the sectarian conspiracy theory nutter's such as BA, VP, Pick etc.

oh, fucking hell, it's the deluded one.

you shouldn't talk about yourself like that

 

[Pickman's model]

Fucking spot on! They've become, what they claim to detest.

it must be a sad existence, being a cheerleader for tbh. at least it's not a competitive field of employment.

 

[The Black Hand]

doctor, heal thyself

WTF are you playing at Pickman.

I thought we smoked the pipes of peace and you've lapsed straight into war.