BNP leader faces jail!!

[TremulousTetra]

because the gaaaaang's aaaaaaallll heeeeerrreeeee

Random.

 

[Pickman's model]

Random.

so you can't say what you meant about 'nutter's' and conspiracy theory stuff.

 

[The Black Hand]

Fucking spot on! They've become, what they claim to detest.

Well put.

That's the correct analysis of their behaviour, regardless of how libertarian they dress it up as.

 

[Pickman's model]

WTF are you playing at Pickman.

I thought we smoked the pipes of peace and you've lapsed straight into war.

a shot across your bows isn't war.

 

[TremulousTetra]

it must be a sad existence, being a cheerleader for tbh. at least it's not a competitive field of employment.

fucked off from this shit ages aggo. popped in today, and same old story. feel sorry for you sectarians.

 

[Random]

Well put.

That's the correct analysis of their behaviour, regardless of how libertarian they dress it up as.

TBH I think 'coherent political positions' are a fallacy and an illusion, an imaginary holy grail if you like.

Sir, I salute your unerring inconsistency, you truly are a gravedigger to the Enlightenment anti-human tyranny of logic.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

What the apologist BA is up against; the faces of real anti-fascism.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[The Black Hand]

it must be a sad existence, being a cheerleader for tbh. at least it's not a competitive field of employment.

Orly, I am doing well thankyou. Ignoring the anarchists actually gets you straight into doing good stuff, see here for this quick review of Mayday 4 from a new contact "Was quite impressed with issue 4 of Mayday, not only for originality but also personal input".

Incidentally, I will send everybody (even Letsa and Butchers, i know you've bought one Pickman, but not Paul) a copy of Mayday 4 for free(!) if they PM me a name/address. I have a few hundred copies I would rather were distributed than hang around.

 

[The Black Hand]

Sir, I salute your unerring inconsistency, you truly are a gravedigger to the Enlightenment anti-human tyranny of logic.

There are different forms of logic, but the logic of class struggle is the best

 

[Citizen66]

right. so the bnp are a party where we all know what they want to do and their public pronouncements on their policies are therefore absolutely worthless.

Well no, of course not. But, policies aside, Griffin is on record as a Holocaust denier and has connections with the KKK so the piss and wind in their manifesto should be viewed in the right context.

 

[rioted]

What the ultra leftists apparently want is a closed bulletin board where they can rant off to each other and back slap each other till their hearts content.[/B]

Didn't work.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Coherent and totalising are not the same thing. One is acheivable, albeit in a circumscribed and temporary manner, the other is not.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Random]

Orly, I am doing well thankyou. Ignoring the anarchists actually gets you straight into doing good stuff, see here for this quick review of Mayday 4 from a new contact "Was quite impressed with issue 4 of Mayday, not only for originality but also personal input".

Incidentally, I will send everybody (even Letsa and Butchers, i know you've bought one Pickman, but not Paul) a copy of Mayday 4 for free(!) if they PM me a name/address. I have a few hundred copies I would rather were distributed than hang around.

I love the way you couple a claim of success with the aside that you've got hundreds of unsold copies of your magazine hanging around your house and slowly turning into mulch.

 

[The Black Hand]

fucked off from this shit ages aggo. popped in today, and same old story. feel sorry for you sectarians.

True.

 

[The Black Hand]

I love the way you couple a claim of success with the aside that you've got hundreds of unsold copies of your magazine hanging around your house and slowly turning into mulch.

Printing too many is always better than printing not enough. If you had experience you would know this.

 

[JimW]

Coherent and totalising are not the same thing. One is acheivable, albeit in a circumscribed and temporary manner, the other is not.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Well put. That's what I'd have said if I had a more coherent political position

 

[ViolentPanda]

plenty of underlying evidence
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=295431&page=2

Only of your partisanship and stupidity.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Wasting your breath on this sectarian.

Oh the fucking irony!!

 

[audiotech]

This thread is going well.

 

[The Black Hand]

This thread is going well.

Well its entertainment of a sort.

 

[TremulousTetra]

Well put.

That's the correct analysis of their behaviour, regardless of how libertarian they dress it up as.

So why bother 'debating' them. You do realise they are are incapable of understanding, accepting, and working with the left, they disagree with. Hence, conspiracy theorie's. I've give up.

 

[Random]

So why bother 'debating' them. You do realise they are are incapable of understanding, accepting, and working with the left, they disagree with. Hence, conspiracy theorie's. I've give up.

But you keep coming back. Because you're obsessed.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Lets be clear, the BNP in power is a fantasy...

Them being "in power" as in having a parliamentary majority, yes, obviously a fantasy. But, holding a degree of power and using it as a lever to legitimise their "new caring and sharing" politics, and that legitimation having the effect of "pulling" mainstream policy rightward in the hunt for votes? We've already seen how easily that can become a reality.

...and there are international laws that would make most of their policies impossible. Any fringe party can make popularist or radical election promises in the knowledge that they'd never get to enact them.

Precisely.

But it may influence some to support them as we have seen in recent years. By 1948 the non white population was tiny in comparison so it wouldn't be a bad yardstick for the BNP to use.

Smaller in size as a percentage of the population, yes, but still extremely ethnically diverse, which is a reality that no BNPer can escape from.

It's the manner in which it was done against lets say the way you made the same point.

He's abrasive, I'm emolient.

 

[The Black Hand]

So why bother 'debating' them. You do realise they are are incapable of understanding, accepting, and working with the left, they disagree with. Hence, conspiracy theorie's. I give up.

I do not do it all the time, this is a rare thread for me these days. I generally lurk, looking around, posting sometimes/rarely. There is nothing to be gained from U75 and hasn't been for years, saying that, it is far better than Limpcok and MATB (those places are depressing) but I still post there sometimes too. When I can be bothered or have got something to say in the belly of the beast.

Its better to work on political projects than post on these boards.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Surrealist gibberish doesn't win arguments VP.

Just because you find it surreal doesn't mean that it is, doctor. Personally I don't see what's "surreal" about pointing out that your post served to shiv you as well as the person it was aimed at.

 

[MrA]

The only people on here who've called Butchers a fascist are people who obviously feel bitter that he has destroyed their arguments over, and over, and over again.

Who? I haven't seen anything of the sort.

I don't think MrA has stated BA is a fascist.
"Give me a link, or oppologise" as Napolean [BA] would say.

They make things up to add to the drama. I've asked for a link from butchersknickers* too, I'm still waiting...

*childish, I know

So why bother 'debating' them. You do realise they are are incapable of understanding, accepting, and working with the left, they disagree with. Hence, conspiracy theorie's. I've give up.

I wish they'd be a bit more specific for newcomers, I was totally confused why an anti BNP as butchers is supposed to be started attacking me firstly on the issue I got wrong and then for my opinion on the BNP. With friends like that who needs enemies?

 

[JimW]

Its better to work on political projects than post on these boards.

Origami with all them unsold copies of your mag?

 

[Random]

When I can be bothered or have got something to say in the belly of the beast. Its better to work on political projects than post on these boards.

'Cause she knows that
It'd be tragic
If those evil robots win
I know she can beat them

Oh Yoshimi, they don't believe me
But you won't let those robots defeat me
Yoshimi, they don't believe me
But you won't let those robots defeat me

 

[ViolentPanda]

there's an upside to the schwartz and a downside

We should probably call him Darth Schvartzehand.

 

[The Black Hand]

Just because you find it surreal doesn't mean that it is, doctor. Personally I don't see what's "surreal" about pointing out that your post served to shiv you as well as the person it was aimed at.

I do not think so. My post was clear.